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All Forum Posts by: Devin Peterson

Devin Peterson has started 67 posts and replied 1534 times.

Post: HELOC for an Investment Property in Central FL

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Quote from @Jose Vasquez Dickson:

Hey BP! I own an investment condo here in Orlando, FL under my personal name and I'm looking to get a HELOC to access that equity to invest in my real estate business. It's owned free and clear. My current income is only from my real estate business and I opened my LLC back in August 2021 so it's around 1.5 years old. I had a W-2 income coming in for many years but I quit in May 2022.

What would be my options to possibly get a HELOC on my investment property?


 Jose,

You cannot do helocs on investment properties - you can do HELOANs. However, most banks that allowed HELOANS on investments wont do it id they are not in second lien position (odd in of itself, i know). So with that being said, if the unit is occupied the best bet to access cash and avoid Fannie/freddie is DSCR cashout.

Post: Rental property income to qualify for loans - Question!

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Quote from @Jennifer Muhler:

Hi there,

We've got one investment property now (seller financing) and we're looking to expand, so exploring what we can qualify for with a conventional loan.

For the existing property, we put quite a bit of money into it to fix it up 2 years ago, so on paper, we're still operating at a "loss" on our taxes as we continue to offset our earnings with our previous expenses. I know this is what makes real estate such an attractive investment, because it's so easy to offset your tax burden by reinvesting in the property itself! We are actually netting $30k a year on the property though, so it's a solid little money maker for us, and we'd like to use that cash toward future investments.

But now the rub - our mortgage guy says the banks will look at our tax docs to see what to count as income, and the mortgage on our investment property will look like a liability since we're declaring loses on it, at least for the next year or two. So how do folks get around this? It seems weird to me that money we spent 2+ years ago makes us look like we have less income than we really do to buy more property today, since we are cash flowing. Do we really have to wait until we start showing a profit on our taxes to be able to use this income toward our purchasing power? Or do we have to talk to a different kind of mortgage broker? 

I want to look poor to the IRS but rich to the banks! :P

Jennifer, Great question. The answer is not at all! No investor would every get ahead, it’s sounds like you could use some insightful information in the space of DSCR and commercial lending. These super investor friendly products don’t require tax returns, income, DTI, nothing! The properties are self sufficient and the debt service is so covered by the rent you charge. You can go as low as 15% for a purchase using this program and cash out up 80LTV to tap into some equity for scale. Nonqm space is what you need!

Post: Need advice on what you would do for FHA loan

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Leo, first and foremost - WOW! You are motivated and give yourself a huge pat on the back. Nice saving. I think your goals can and will be achieved through house hacking. I am in Tampa myself! Why don't we connect some time. Sent you a PM!

Post: Buying student housing using DSCR loan

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In my opinion the amount you make with a student vs a family as your tenant is irrelevant. It still all matters on the type of loan. Long term or STR. Essentially, you can apply for a regular investment DSCR loan and just advertise that unit as a 12-month lease only to stay within the guidelines of the lender. Or, there are lenders who will concede to a STR 20% down payment if the underwriting looks good and you have some reserves to spare. Regardless, the number used to qualify will come from the appraisal is most cases.

Post: Heloc or creative finance or hard money lender

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Quote from @Daniel Salmo:

I currently have an investment property in Doral Florida and i have a first conventional mortgage and second is heloc arm interest only. I want to find an investor who is willing to pay off the heloc and work out terms where some goes towards principal? any thoughts?

Hi Daniel, you want find many, or any lenders for that matter, who will give you a HELOC for an investment property these days. You can find home equity loans for investment properties that go up to two units. Best option imo i think you need a DSCR loan, but I am unclear or your main purpose besides paying down both the p+i

Post: Need cash out refinance on a investment property that is mobile

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Quote from @Luigi Schiano:

So I need a cash out refinance on a investment property on a home


 So it’s a mobile home? Double or single wide?

Post: First Time Multifamily Buyer

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Quote from @Jonathan Kennon:

Hello all and Happy Holidays,  

I am a brand new investor and I am trying to secure my first property and I want it to be a Multifamily. I don't have much capital (none to be transparent). I am looking into a private lender to help find this. The property I am looking will need a decent amount of rehab, but the return / cash on cash return is EXCELLENT ! I am very uneducated on how a lender like this. I live in Tampa, FL but looking at properties in Ohio. If anyone could help with any info on how to find lenders like these it would be amazing. Furthermore, If I were able to possibly get a lender like this, would it have to be based out of the state that I am buying or would one in FL work ? Thanks for any advice / help ! 


 Hey Jonathan!

pleasure to meet you - I’m in Tampa/St. Pete as well! I’d love to meet up with you and talk about what you’re looking to do. I’m always open to finding new investors. Great opportunity for us to learn from each other. Send me a PM 👍🏼

Post: MIP or Mortgage Insurance Premium included with FHA and 203k Loan

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Mostly depends on the loan amount - have you priced this scenario out with a lender / broker?

Post: Buying a rental with an FHA but not living in it

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Quote from @Kenzie McIlvoy:

My husband and I are wrapping up over a year long live in flip at our lake house that we plan to make a STR in the spring. We are under contract to sell our LTR and want to replace it with a second STR. Because we lived in that property over 2 of the last 5 years we don't have to worry about 1031.

We planned on purchasing a property with a DCSR loan but our realtor strongly advised that we do an FHA loan instead. We told him that we do *not* plan on living in this property and we plan on buying another (our dream home) sometime in the spring. He has more than insisted because of low down payment and interest rate, comparatively. We've never heard of using an FHA for a property that's not your primary residence and don't know if this is possible and what the consequences would be. We want to invest the right way but more importantly, we don't want to jeopardize our financing for our primary residence here in a few months. He suggested using a conventional loan in the spring for our primary residence. Our realtor is also on board with this and stating that this happens all the time.

We are on a journey to build our wealth and getting very close to financial freedom but we want to do it the right way. Any thoughts or advice would be so helpful. Thank you!


Tell them thank you for your time and find a new agent. Thats god awful advice.

Post: Non QM Interest only mortgage products

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Quote from @Nicholas Burch:

I am curious, have you used an interest-only mortgage product for a deal? If so, why?


Some investors choose i/o periods because their cash flow maybe negative and it makes senses in their books to pay I/o for 10 years let's say. There's really a multitude of reasons. You can actually choose to pay additional principal with I/O if you would like also. For financing purposes, qualifying of the i/o for DSCR products can make or break a deal.