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All Forum Posts by: Dea Chu

Dea Chu has started 3 posts and replied 35 times.

Post: Let's Talk about Ontario!

Dea ChuPosted
  • Sudbury, Ontario
  • Posts 35
  • Votes 5

Good idea @Justin H.

I'm trying to get started investing in Ontario, specifically Sudbury. I'm looking to start with a duplex, live in half, and build up a bit of a portfolio from there. I have been looking at properties for years (as a pastime more than a serious search), but might also be suffering a bit from analysis paralysis. There are many options, and different ways to get started so I might just have to jump in! I find a lot of the nicer units don't cashflow enough from my estimates.

One of my gripes is that it's so difficult to get information about comps, time on the market, previous sell prices, etc., in order to come up with a reasonable offer without being in the industry. I have a realtor but seem to have to do a lot of legwork, which might be normal but is not so great while working at another job full time.

Looking forward to hearing what more people are saying about Ontario investing! 

@Account Closed

Thanks again for your advice! I will talk to someone about the rules around owner-occupied rentals and what happens when moving out just to make sure. If we do put 20% down we would have more leeway with our mortgage cost and expenses but we would be putting more cash on the line, which I guess is normal for any other rental property.

Hi @George P.. I realize this is likely terrible for most of the states. It's good to get some more perspective though. This isn't in Toronto or Vancouver, but generally the housing market in my city is pretty stable and probably a tad overpriced as you can tell. Thanks for your input!

@Account Closed

 We would live in the larger unit for now because the renter is staying put upstairs, but moving into the smaller unit would not be out of the question, and might be preferable. I would also be very interested in making sure the building was as efficient as possible and will have to look into the structure and brickwork. It was built in the 1960s.

@Lisa Lavie

 It sounds like you've found some interesting ways to buy property with very little money down! I have some money to put down, but can't seem to find houses for a decent price that will cash flow well. Do you find being in the real estate industry really gives you the inside scoop? Do you have any advice for someone looking for a good deal who is not in the industry?

Hey @Account Closed. Thanks for the reply. Very thorough and informative!

You're right, the cash flow doesn't leave much wiggle room and I would think at that purchase price that any positive cash flow would go into an account for necessary maintenance/repairs over time. To address your points:

1. The location is desirable compared to others in the city and is close to shopping and schools. The vacancy in town is quite low (1.5-2%) and the current tenant is happy there and wants to stay. The real estate market is quite stable in the city due to pretty steady employment and a good amount of demand, from what I know, especially for multi-family properties. I think there would be some appreciation occurring, especially if we put some updates into the upper rental unit eventually. 

2. My fiance and I have full time jobs and savings, so would be able to foot some of the bills if there were vacancy or repairs necessary. I feel like as a pure investor I would want to limit inputs from our personal accounts, but in order to keep things in order we would have the resources. I feel there is a balance between buying this as a pure investment property, and as a starter home with rental income. Looking at it as a starter home, I would be willing to put more of our money into it, but still limit the down payment because eventually I would like it to be an income property and build its own equity from renters.

I have also thought about the utilities/expenses and would prefer the units to be metered separately, but this building only has one meter and all expenses would be my responsibility. The heating system is relatively efficient compared to, say, electric heat, but that being said it can get pretty cold in my neck of the woods. 

Thanks again Shez! Always nice to hear from a fellow Canadian, but I hope you're enjoying being in California!

Post: New from northern Ontario, Canada

Dea ChuPosted
  • Sudbury, Ontario
  • Posts 35
  • Votes 5

Hi Cal,

That's how I feel about the Sudbury market. Things are overpriced for what the rent would earn, and getting good cash flow is a challenge I think. That being said, I don't own a place, but have been running the numbers on everything from nice to rundown multi-family properties and maybe I'm too conservative but things are pretty lean. I'm curious to know how you set things up as an investor in the US. You would have people there manage your properties, and you would buy site unseen? It's good to be part of a network like BP to help things along!

There is most certainly still a lot of mining going on in the Sudbury area. I am a biologist and work in consulting so I see a fair bit of it. I guess you know a bit about that being a geologist? Rocks are cool! 

Post: New from northern Ontario, Canada

Dea ChuPosted
  • Sudbury, Ontario
  • Posts 35
  • Votes 5

Thanks very much @Cal Ewing! I'm hoping to learn a lot and make some headway by hanging around the forum. Do you invest in properties in Calgary? 

Post: Hello from BC, Canada

Dea ChuPosted
  • Sudbury, Ontario
  • Posts 35
  • Votes 5

Hi Shaidah,

I'm new to BP as well, and am a fellow Canadian living in Ontario. I was recently in Vancouver area, visiting friends in the city, in Victoria, and in the Delta area (Ladner). What a beautiful area! But I don't think I'd want to/be able to buy a home there with the prices! Good job paying off your house! I don't own yet, but I can understand the drive to pay off a mortgage, even with the low interest rates. And that house you linked to is aaah-mazing! Maybe someday?

Best of luck,

Dea

Post: New from northern Ontario, Canada

Dea ChuPosted
  • Sudbury, Ontario
  • Posts 35
  • Votes 5