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All Forum Posts by: Debbie Lee

Debbie Lee has started 2 posts and replied 95 times.

Originally posted by @Wayne Brooks:

@Account Closed Pay attention.  When you dispute a debt reported on your credit report, and get it removed.....it only removes Mention of that debt from your credit report, along with the negative credit score impact from it.  It does NOT eliminate the actual debt you have, and doesn't prevent the creditor from collecting.  This is a pretty clear distinction, but you seemed to have missed it.  And of course at this point she doesn't have a debt with the guru company, but with her credit card co.

 I think, If I go ahead and dispute through credit report company I have a lot of uncertainty down the track.

#1. Like what Wayne Brooks said above, I might still ending up to pay my CC company.

#2. To call any of the credit beau company its like calling the hell, I did not have any luck in the past. Even if I got through they tend to ask you to call around UNTIL YOU ARE TOTALLY LOST AND NO ONE CAN HELP YOU !! So if I initiate a dispute through them, I just can see A BIG MESS I have done to myself, as I do not have a clear understanding how everything worked and linked to each other, if I have a lawyer or someone holding my hand, then is a different story.

#3. What happen to my credit score afterwards? there are just so much unknown. If there is some information marked on my report and no one knows how to remove or edit, it will effect so many ways in my report. A clearly example of what happen to us in the last 2 years, as I have just my green card approved, so I have a SSN. I have been trying just to UPDATE my SSN to Experian so we can refinance our mortgage, it end up was an impossible mission ! Many times I got through to Experian, but they want me to call my bank, bank say call them.... what the hell !! I was lost and we are now still paying 6.5% on our home mortgage.

Going dispute by a Pro bono will be my next step.

@Sheila Ecung After I well "lick" myself, I will do some of it.....

@Paul Samuels So glad you got run away with the SCAM !

I think I need to get better prepared if all complaints failed. 

Does anyone know how to find a trustworthy pro bono work? I think when most of the results back from complaints I will know to go ahead with a lawyer or not ...( I don't keep a high hope here on getting money back as a online attorney who answered their company deal with cases like this and chances are slim and a lot of money involved too ) 

A Lady went to the same journey with me paid $30 got her $23k back based on her health reason , she did all the negotiation direct with the company and the sickness reason from start that did not take long for her to get her money back.

To be honest, I am so overwhelming ( head spinning) for many days with many suggestions and so many of them  I am just lost!  @Account Closed I appreciate all your suggestion , It all sounds very good. but if suggestion does not click with me I just can't implement on that , hope you understand .

As far as my health goes, it does affect me hugely on so many ways, it started when I was dumped from the moment that I did not get any help. I did mention to the big shark when he called to intimidate ,now I think back I am so dumb not to include my doctor's paper to all my complaints.

Maybe is not too late! Tomorrow I am flying to my Doctor for the paper and fax to everyone ! 

For sure if I am going ahead with the lawyer the doctor paper will certainly attach to it! 

( A lady PM me this is how she get her money back ) 

@Lew Payne Given that CC company still have not sent out the letter to the merchant, once the letter received by merchant, they have 45-60 days to resolve.

I am searching for a lawyer now, but not sure what  should I do now? wait for the result from the CC or go ahead and use a lawyer?

Appreciate your kindness to refer me your lawyer, but I don't think i have more money to burn unless they willing to do a pro bono work?

Guys and @Barbara G. I am just lost with all the mumbo Jumbo...

Best hope now on my complaints to state attorney general, BBB, consumer complaint, and CC disputes sent out last two days

@Account Closed This Guru only gives 3 day money back guaranteed.

I have already asked my CC company for dispute. Consumers Credit Protection Act gives us up to 6 months to dispute a charge after payment made. 

@Jay Hinrichs 

Thank you !!

And of course, BPers , spread your words, I DO NOT wish to hear anyone falling to my footsteps. 

@Jay Hinrichs The only one word to describe the whole story " SCAM".

How many times we return or complaint a purchased product or service based on a buyer remorse? Reason for merchant's over promise, fail to provide service or false advertising? this lists goes on and on.... So are we all sitting at home and kick ourselves for being too greedy ? 

By all means, I am not here to "have" everyone to agree with me, I am far too exhausted fro that, my only purpose is " how to get my money back " period !! 

Sure, Have I learnt my lesson  failed to do my due diligent before signing away my money YES!!!

Originally posted by @Barbara G.:
Originally posted by @Jay Hinrichs:

@Wendell De Guzman

 Nothing is free and getting great information in one venue over the course of 3 days or so should cost money there is no way it should be free. If was free you would get all sorts of Freddie freeloaders.

As for Premier Marketing.. I might be the only one of the BP that has actually been in their offices and had meetings with upper management... Make no Mistake this is a big big dollar business . And Premier is only 1 of 9 to 12 of these Floors working I Utah... When I was in the conference room they had tombstones of their star's and they are all gurus of some reporte'.. there bull pin boiler room ( that's your mentors you get) had a hundred plus cubes filled with 20 something's working the phones.. they are very good at what they do.

Are there tactics of getting folks to go into debt on CC less than admirable I think so. But people inherently are greedy and they want some free lunch.. then they get buyers remorse and blame everyone else ... there is a certain amount of that going on as well.

I have also attended Armando's mega 4 day event in LA.. there is a lot of real information imparted on the participants.. and very detailed info.. is it worth 40k maybe to some but maybe not to others..  But it is real it does happen... But again its the general public I think that is mainly to blame for some reason they think RE is something the can learn in a week or weekend.. or even on BP by reading and listening and all of a sudden be making 40k a month like all the adds... when in fact 90% or more that come to any of these venues be them free or cost 40k never do anything in RE ==========================================What are you saying?  How can you justify making poor people max out their credit cards and walk them thru defrauding credit card companies and bankrupting themselves.  You are BLAMING THE VICTIM!!!   These are people chasing a dream.  These are unsophisticated people.  You also  have the nerve to say  "The general public is  mainly to blame for some reason they think  is something they can learn in a week or weekend.. " 

They think they can learn it in a week-end because the GURU's at these free seminars have told them they can learn it in a week or week end  and then you say "But people inherently are greedy and they want some free lunch"  No these GURU companies are the greedy ones and they are  the vultures.

BG

Sure, If we "victims" are to be blamed for "greedy ", I think I have something to say...

I seriously don't think I could possibly afford the education of 40K( I am not that greedy to want something I can not afford ), its those GURU'S " magic show" that really "hypnotized " and "brainwashed" those dream chasers with the believe ---yes ! just pay us $ 40K we will hold your hand and find you $40k back.

After 1st day's brainwashed, I was really going to walk away with a remorse, as in the 1st day they started to talk about the education fee cost around $20K- $40 K, and I thought I will never have the money to pay, but soon enough at 2nd day, THEY TAUGHT US HOW TO BE REALLY EVIL TO MAX OUT OUR CARDS, AND KEEP CALLING UNTIL YOU GET YOUR CARDS FOR $40k !!!

I 100% believe majority of people are not so "dareing " at heart, but, because GURU opening teach and encourage publicly in class, even call those "successful" people to stand up and appraise them with the amount of money they raised, so the rest can follow suit, they are turning the evil thing to be a "marvelous" act, surely not 100% people believed, but a good bunch of people were really brainwashed and mis-guided !!! And this is exactly like what Barbara G. said "these GURU companies are the greedy ones and they are the vultures."