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All Forum Posts by: David O

David O has started 5 posts and replied 117 times.

Post: Property tax auction

David OPosted
  • Investor
  • Detroit, MI
  • Posts 119
  • Votes 64

I'm not sure how it is in Florida, but in Michigan that is that case. As long as the foreclosure process was done correctly (correct notice was given to all interested parties). I just bought a house from the county auction a few months ago.

Post: Sub$30k - Property pictures

David OPosted
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  • Detroit, MI
  • Posts 119
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Here are some pictures of a house I bought. 2 bedroom/1 bath. Bought for 13K in tax auction and put 5K into it. Rents for $600, but I could probably get more. Did nothing on exterior (besides remove that graffiti and replace one window) and the interior was trashed. Tore most of the floors down to joists.

Post: Apartment Buildings in Detroit are MAD CHEAP!

David OPosted
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  • Detroit, MI
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You'd have to come and see it on the ground. There are alot of apartment buildings for sale but alot of them are in drug areas and infested with criminals. I would be very careful investing in an apartment building in Detroit. You really have to know the area.

Post: Sub$30k - Property pictures

David OPosted
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  • Detroit, MI
  • Posts 119
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Damn Rob, you get some good deals. I wish I was investing in '09. Seems like if you had the cash, it could have been very lucrative. Everyone is showing some pretty nice houses for being under 30K. I'll have to take pictures of mine and put it up.

Post: Who thinks Detroit will turn around within the next 5 years?

David OPosted
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  • Detroit, MI
  • Posts 119
  • Votes 64
Originally posted by @Joe Delia:
Originally posted by @Scott K.:
Originally posted by @Joe Delia:
Detroit is already turning around. The rents in downtown have doubled in 5 years, pushing the old business district people to midtown, driving up midtown rents. There is only one listing on the MLS right now for corktown, for 800sq ft 1 br $120,000. Detroit as a whole will need to shrink it's footprint, and it's going to be a long time before the whole city is realistically functioning but large pockets are improving at an exponential rate.
Todays under 40 population is flocking downtown and that trend is going to continue.
The building department and courts still have a long way to go. We're not that far removed from kwame, so we need to give duggan and the state time to sort the morons out after years of corruption

A perfect example of when people get involved with social engineering. They were paying people to stay downtown instead just letting it happen on its own. Now they priced the very same people that started the comeback down there. I hate the fact that now most of those people have to move.

I think the next area that will make a comeback will be around Motor City casino. In the next 5 years that area should be built up with the new Wings arena going up not that far from there. The problem is where do the poor people move to when that area is back up and boomig

You hate that gilbert offered a carrot to his employees to live around tons of his current investments? They don't have to move, they can just choose to pay more. What else was going to happen when an area "comes back"? You expect rents to stay low because they were there first?

I have a great pulse of the 30 year old demographic, and I'm in the business district all the time due to my wife working for quicken. I understand what is happening and talk to people all the time. Everyone is very optimistic and lots of people in my generation are looking to move downtown.

Can you imagine what brush park is going to look like in ten years? It's going to be amazing.

True. Brush Park could be awesome if it's done right. Plus it would connect Downtown / Midtown to Eastern Market. I work for the same employer as your wife. Most of my building down here works there as well. The perception of Detroit is definitely changing.

Post: Who thinks Detroit will turn around within the next 5 years?

David OPosted
  • Investor
  • Detroit, MI
  • Posts 119
  • Votes 64
Originally posted by @Tom A.:
Originally posted by @David O:
Originally posted by @Scott K.:
Originally posted by @David O:
Certain areas of Detroit are already "coming back". In 5-10 years the perception of Detroit will be different. There are alot of powerful figures that are actively investing in "rebranding" Detroit and they have a good track record. Now is the time to invest IMO. You really need to know the area though. I'm not talking about investing in some $500 house in the middle of nowhere on the eastside. Corktown, Midtown and Downtown are the hot spots right now and it will grow outward into other neighborhoods. New Center, Mexicantown, Brush Park and other areas are luke warm. Some areas are dead cold. There is alot of rehab going on and alot of new businesses opening in the hot areas. Smart people are investing in Detroit right now. Follow the money. If my money wasn't tied up right now I would be investing in Detroit. I plan to in the next couple years. If anyone wants to partner up message me ;). I live Downtown and work Downtown and really "get" the pulse of this area.

I said Corktown in an earlier post. Its the cheapest way to get into the game. With Cork town being one of the closest hoods to downtown that is not bombed out it will be worth a shot.

Yes smart people are investing but those people are big big big money to think that an average investor could get in on those deals is silly. Those deals never even reach the market. To get into the downtown area you need to get approval from the downtown economic club that holds the cards

Yep, I agree. Corktown right now would be the easiest and cheapest way to get in. I wasn't saying to invest in downtown, as yes I agree, that would be hard. My point is basically that the people investing downtown and midtown have a huge incentive to expand this growth. If Detroit truly "comes back" ( at least Downtown, Corktown, Midtown, Southwest, Brush Park) then they are going to transition from being millionaires to being billionaires. I would not invest in a lot of neighborhoods in Detroit except for a select few. Either way it will be risky, but with risk comes great reward ;)

My perspective is that it's too late to be "getting into" Corktown. 5, 10 or even 20 years too late. Houses in Corktown are going for $100K - $250K, when they come up which isn't very often. It's not a very big area. Prices have been strong and supply has been low for years.

You may be able to find a good deal in Corktown, the same way you can find a good deal in Royal Oak or Troy, by beating the bushes and getting a bit lucky, but Corktown isn't a neighborhood that is just starting to get some traction, making the turn around, getting discovered by gays, hipsters and creatives. It's already there, or more correctly, it was there and now it's getting too pricy.

Ehh I agree that buying at the lowest prices is long gone. It depends what you mean by getting into. 5-10 years ago it would have been scary to invest in Corktown. That would have been a great investment though. It was basically a dead zone after Comerica Park was built. There are still a lot of new businesses popping up in that area right now though. Motor City Wine, Sugar House, Mercury Bar, Detroit Institure of Bagels, Astro Cofee, etc have all opened in the last three years. The neighborhoold is reinventing itself into a hip area and I think there is alot of room left to grow. Even suburbian people go to that area (Slows BBQ). Getting a renter in that area would be easy and with the way rents are going, you could get a great investment at the right price. For me, I'd rather invest in Corktown than Royal Oak. Royal Oak is what it is. Corktown is just getting started. It's riskier, but it could work out very well. If Moroun ever does anything with the train station your investment will be looking pretty good.

Detroit is hot right now with the younger crowd. Wayne State University is a big part of why perceptions are changing for the younger generation. Still a lot of work to do, but there are some promising things happening.

Post: Who thinks Detroit will turn around within the next 5 years?

David OPosted
  • Investor
  • Detroit, MI
  • Posts 119
  • Votes 64
Originally posted by @Aaron Yates:
Originally posted by @David O:
Originally posted by @Scott K.:
Originally posted by @David O:
Certain areas of Detroit are already "coming back". In 5-10 years the perception of Detroit will be different. There are alot of powerful figures that are actively investing in "rebranding" Detroit and they have a good track record. Now is the time to invest IMO. You really need to know the area though. I'm not talking about investing in some $500 house in the middle of nowhere on the eastside. Corktown, Midtown and Downtown are the hot spots right now and it will grow outward into other neighborhoods. New Center, Mexicantown, Brush Park and other areas are luke warm. Some areas are dead cold. There is alot of rehab going on and alot of new businesses opening in the hot areas. Smart people are investing in Detroit right now. Follow the money. If my money wasn't tied up right now I would be investing in Detroit. I plan to in the next couple years. If anyone wants to partner up message me ;). I live Downtown and work Downtown and really "get" the pulse of this area.

I said Corktown in an earlier post. Its the cheapest way to get into the game. With Cork town being one of the closest hoods to downtown that is not bombed out it will be worth a shot.

Yes smart people are investing but those people are big big big money to think that an average investor could get in on those deals is silly. Those deals never even reach the market. To get into the downtown area you need to get approval from the downtown economic club that holds the cards

Yep, I agree. Corktown right now would be the easiest and cheapest way to get in. I wasn't saying to invest in downtown, as yes I agree, that would be hard. My point is basically that the people investing downtown and midtown have a huge incentive to expand this growth. If Detroit truly "comes back" ( at least Downtown, Corktown, Midtown, Southwest, Brush Park) then they are going to transition from being millionaires to being billionaires. I would not invest in a lot of neighborhoods in Detroit except for a select few. Either way it will be risky, but with risk comes great reward ;)

Ahhh... I didnt know Corktown was promising right now. What are the prices there?

~100K for the fully rehabbed houses selling on the MLS. There is not much supply, but it is a hot area. I could find a renter to rent in that area super quick.

Post: Who thinks Detroit will turn around within the next 5 years?

David OPosted
  • Investor
  • Detroit, MI
  • Posts 119
  • Votes 64
Originally posted by @Scott K.:
Originally posted by @David O:
Certain areas of Detroit are already "coming back". In 5-10 years the perception of Detroit will be different. There are alot of powerful figures that are actively investing in "rebranding" Detroit and they have a good track record. Now is the time to invest IMO. You really need to know the area though. I'm not talking about investing in some $500 house in the middle of nowhere on the eastside. Corktown, Midtown and Downtown are the hot spots right now and it will grow outward into other neighborhoods. New Center, Mexicantown, Brush Park and other areas are luke warm. Some areas are dead cold. There is alot of rehab going on and alot of new businesses opening in the hot areas. Smart people are investing in Detroit right now. Follow the money. If my money wasn't tied up right now I would be investing in Detroit. I plan to in the next couple years. If anyone wants to partner up message me ;). I live Downtown and work Downtown and really "get" the pulse of this area.

I said Corktown in an earlier post. Its the cheapest way to get into the game. With Cork town being one of the closest hoods to downtown that is not bombed out it will be worth a shot.

Yes smart people are investing but those people are big big big money to think that an average investor could get in on those deals is silly. Those deals never even reach the market. To get into the downtown area you need to get approval from the downtown economic club that holds the cards

Yep, I agree. Corktown right now would be the easiest and cheapest way to get in. I wasn't saying to invest in downtown, as yes I agree, that would be hard. My point is basically that the people investing downtown and midtown have a huge incentive to expand this growth. If Detroit truly "comes back" ( at least Downtown, Corktown, Midtown, Southwest, Brush Park) then they are going to transition from being millionaires to being billionaires. I would not invest in a lot of neighborhoods in Detroit except for a select few. Either way it will be risky, but with risk comes great reward ;)

Post: Who thinks Detroit will turn around within the next 5 years?

David OPosted
  • Investor
  • Detroit, MI
  • Posts 119
  • Votes 64

Certain areas of Detroit are already "coming back". In 5-10 years the perception of Detroit will be different. There are alot of powerful figures that are actively investing in "rebranding" Detroit and they have a good track record. Now is the time to invest IMO. You really need to know the area though. I'm not talking about investing in some $500 house in the middle of nowhere on the eastside. Corktown, Midtown and Downtown are the hot spots right now and it will grow outward into other neighborhoods. New Center, Mexicantown, Brush Park and other areas are luke warm. Some areas are dead cold. There is alot of rehab going on and alot of new businesses opening in the hot areas. Smart people are investing in Detroit right now. Follow the money. If my money wasn't tied up right now I would be investing in Detroit. I plan to in the next couple years. If anyone wants to partner up message me ;). I live Downtown and work Downtown and really "get" the pulse of this area.

Post: My First Flip (Michigan)

David OPosted
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  • Detroit, MI
  • Posts 119
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Sounds like a great investment. I just completed a tax sale house too (Wayne County). Luckily my house was not inhabited. PS. Did you find a title company to insure it? I found a company that has an alternative process to obtaining Quiet Title and they will insure over it. The process takes less time and costs less.