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All Forum Posts by: David Kitchen

David Kitchen has started 2 posts and replied 17 times.

Post: Kris Krohn? Morris Invest?

David KitchenPosted
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Dylan,
I spoke to some of his "personal assistants" on the phone and also thru text messaging. I initially wrote out how my numbers would compound simply based off Kris saying you double your money every 3 to 5 yrs "on average" in his promotional YouTube videos he puts out. Then after looking at his track record he (well who ever he hired) posted, the numbers became very minimal. And this was confirmed by the personal assistant I communicated with. Are you ready??? After you split the cash flow w him (Kris) 50%/50%, on average you receive around $150 per month per property. At this rate, you would have to have 67 properties w Kris to make $10K per month. 

If you dont have his track record, I can email it to you, No problem. Just DM me on here.

DK

Originally posted by @Dylan Zybko:

@David Kitchen, I'm very new to reseaching real estate investing-but that does NOT seem like a good deal. Much like @Michael Guydish I've been reading Strait Path to Real Estate Wealth and considering partnering with him. It seems a little "too good to be true" but have not been able to find many reviews or people who can actually speak to the program.

His Unleash Your Financial Destiny live events are mostly about knocking down mental self imposed road blocks that have been there since we were children. They are 4 days long and I have seen them advertised for $497 for 1 ticket. 

Post: Stock Market VS. Turn Key RE Kris Krohn

David KitchenPosted
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Originally posted by @Taylor L.:

You have no way to control the fluctuations of the market. The market does not produce cash flow, it does not have extremely cheap leverage, and it does not have enormous tax advantages. This one is one great day, but overall, the statistics on trading are very dismal. Real estate has a far, far better track record for creating millionaires and financially independent people than swing trading.

I made a really nice trade when TSLA was running up, with a tidy profit. I'm sure many others did too. If I could do that every day, that would be great! Unfortunately, history just does not support that strategy. Traders do not outperform the market in the long run, the statistics do not lie.

However, people are always going to need a place to live. Money is cheap, and as real estate investors we get the benefit of that.

 Thanks Taylor for the response!

On demand Cash flow is always available in the market by selling options. Other than that point, I agree with everything else you stated.

Post: Kris Krohn? Morris Invest?

David KitchenPosted
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Pertaining to Kris Krohn: (As of 2/25/2020)

To partner w KK and his team, its $10k to $25K to join his partnership program (he has 3 levels) then $2K to $5K Acquisition Fee Plus the 50% equity split per property. So this ends up being 10% to 12.5% annually for the passive partner that put up the credit and money. (Don't forget to split the 20% to 25% K shows by 50%)

His (KK) minimum expectations are:

  1. 20% Annual Net ROI Per Property Per Year
  2. 8-12% Cash on Cash ROI Per Property Per Year
  3. Average Value of Properties $150,000.00
  4. Average Down Payment on Properties $30,000-$60,000 (range between cash flow markets and growth markets)
  5. Coordination Fee Per Property of $2,000-$5,000
  6. SWAN Account Formation of $10,000 For The First Property and $5,000 Per Property After That (Sleep Well At Night Account)
  7. Minimum Duplication of Portfolio: Double Your Portfolio Size Every 5 Years

Post: Stock Market VS. Turn Key RE Kris Krohn

David KitchenPosted
  • Posts 17
  • Votes 14

Group,

I dont know about doing RE or not. I know BP is all about RE (which is awesome), but look at what the stock market did today (2/24/20) for example. I went into my PM brokerage account (using my smart phone) and placed a simple trade at noon today. Then about two hours later was up about $34.2K. Amount at risk would be $300K and the max profit on the trade is around $75K or 25% which would be realized by this Friday. (5 days total). And all I'm doing is sitting here watching my cell phone screen. I can exit the trade at any time the market is open to take the open profit or wait to see what happens leading up to friday.

I can take the profits from here and repeat this trade again and again. Just like KK teaches, right!? He says take your profits within 3 to 7 years by selling the properties, then just reinvest by buying more. Same theory here except I can do this on a weekly basis. But I would NOT be giving up 50% of the profits, no acquisition fees, and no $10K to $25K to join a partnership program.

Group,

I dont know about doing RE or not. I know BP is all about RE (which is awesome), but look at what the stock market did today (2/24/20) for example. I went into my PM brokerage account (using my smart phone) and placed a simple trade at noon today. Then about two hours later was up about $34.2K. Amount at risk would be $300K and the max profit on the trade is around $75K or 25% which would be realized by this Friday. (5 days total). And all I'm doing is sitting here watching my cell phone screen. I can exit the trade at any time the market is open to take the open profit or wait to see what happens leading up to friday. 

I can take the profits from here and repeat this trade again and again. Just like KK teaches, right!? He says take your profits within 3 to 7 years by selling the properties, then just reinvest by buying more. Same theory here except I can do this on a weekly basis. But I would NOT be giving up 50% of the profits, no acquisition fees, and no $10K to $25K to join a partnership program.

Originally posted by @Andrew Bailey:

When i talk to kris team, last year. They told me i would need $65k for 2 house 

2 house cash flow = $150+$150 = $300

$300*12 = $3,600 per year 

$65,000 / $3,600 = 18 years to make up my investment 

since they will sell houses every 5 years, i dont think ill get much principal bc most of that will go in intrest

 Andrew,

Don't forget the $10k to $25k to join them plus $10k swan account on 1st property plus $5k on the second property.  Don't forget to factor in these mandatory cost of $25K to $40K. 

This is from 2018. Most of the properties cash flow less than $300. So the passive partner gets $150 / month.

(Sorry for the distorted image. My original image is crystal clear)

@Randy

@Andrew

Average Cash Flow is a little north of $300. (And remember.... you give 50% to KK). This is directly out of his track record from 2018.

To partner w KK and his team, its $10k to $25K to join his partnership program (he has 3 levels) then $2K to $5K Acquisition Fee Plus the 50% equity split per property. So maybe ends up being 10% to 12.5% annual for the passive partner. (Don't forget to split the 20% to 25% K shows by 50%)

His minimum expectations are:

  1. 20% Annual Net ROI Per Property Per Year
  2. 8-12% Cash on Cash ROI Per Property Per Year
  3. Average Value of Properties $150,000.00
  4. Average Down Payment on Properties $30,000-$60,000 (range between cash flow markets and growth markets)
  5. Coordination Fee Per Property of $2,000-$5,000
  6. SWAN Account Formation of $10,000 For The First Property and $5,000 Per Property After That (Sleep Well At Night Account)
  7. Minimum Duplication of Portfolio: Double Your Portfolio Size Every 5 Years