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All Forum Posts by: David Garcia

David Garcia has started 7 posts and replied 52 times.

Post: Looking at opening a HELOC on my primary

David Garcia
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  • Financial Advisor
  • Tampa, FL
  • Posts 53
  • Votes 26
Quote from @Amber Arwine:
Quote from @David Garcia:
Quote from @Todd Rasmussen:

@David Garcia

You'll get denied for both your HELOC and your loan on the MF if you use those terms. HELOC bank doesn't want their line used as a term loan on real estate they don't have collateralized and the bank that you apply for a loan for doesn't want your down payment to be borrowed.

If you wanted to get the HELOC for home improvements then decide to draw on it for liquidity, had it sit in a bank account for a couple months and then applied for a MF loan and used it as the down payment, you'd have to answer no to the question, "is any part of the down payment borrowed". But if that answer was no, then you wouldn't get denied for the reasons mentioned previously.

That being said, try elements.org/spedersen. You can tell Shaneka I sent you and ask her real questions. She's a great resource to get some information on getting a HELOC.


 @Todd Rasmussen - Thank you for that info and reference. I was not aware of that and had heard different from others. When I reach out to your reference Im sure she will give me the low down on how it will have to be proposed. Thank you again. 


Mortgage Lender here: it's fine if the down payment for the new property is from a HELOC/HE Loan. There is no requirement that the funds need to be seasoned. Down payment funds just can't be from a unsecured loan (personal loan/credit card). Any secured loan is fine as long as we have the documentation. I'm happy to answer any other questions on that you might have.


 @Amber Arwine - That is great to hear, especially from a lender. I had heard something similar in the past so thank you greatly for confirming. I appreciate the info and if I do come up with any further questions I will most definitely reach out and ask. Thanks again.

Post: Looking at opening a HELOC on my primary

David Garcia
Pro Member
Posted
  • Financial Advisor
  • Tampa, FL
  • Posts 53
  • Votes 26
Quote from @Todd Rasmussen:

@David Garcia

You'll get denied for both your HELOC and your loan on the MF if you use those terms. HELOC bank doesn't want their line used as a term loan on real estate they don't have collateralized and the bank that you apply for a loan for doesn't want your down payment to be borrowed.

If you wanted to get the HELOC for home improvements then decide to draw on it for liquidity, had it sit in a bank account for a couple months and then applied for a MF loan and used it as the down payment, you'd have to answer no to the question, "is any part of the down payment borrowed". But if that answer was no, then you wouldn't get denied for the reasons mentioned previously.

That being said, try elements.org/spedersen. You can tell Shaneka I sent you and ask her real questions. She's a great resource to get some information on getting a HELOC.


 @Todd Rasmussen - Thank you for that info and reference. I was not aware of that and had heard different from others. When I reach out to your reference Im sure she will give me the low down on how it will have to be proposed. Thank you again. 

Post: Looking at opening a HELOC on my primary

David Garcia
Pro Member
Posted
  • Financial Advisor
  • Tampa, FL
  • Posts 53
  • Votes 26

Hello BP, I am new to biggerpockets and have been researching RE for about 6 months. With all of the great info here on BP, YouTube and reading RE investing books I have soaked in a lot of info. I am looking to buy my first multifamily within the next 3-6 months and am looking to open a HELOC for the down payment. I am looking for some solid advice on which companies may be best to go with for my HELOC? I appreciate any insight. Thank you.

Post: Looking for info regarding working with a partner that has the ca

David Garcia
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Posted
  • Financial Advisor
  • Tampa, FL
  • Posts 53
  • Votes 26
Quote from @Bruce Woodruff:
Quote from @David Garcia:
Quote from @Bruce Woodruff:
Quote from @David Garcia:

When I have done it, I was the GC and my partner was the money guy. I handled EVERYTHING except the money and we split the money 50/50.

YOur deal sounds different so see what others say about how to split.....


@Bruce Woodruff, actually my situation is the exact same. I will be doing EVERYTHING minus the funding. So when you say 50/50 split, are you referring to the Monthly cash flow and the cash out when refinancing or the sale of the property? Thanks

My money guy paid everything at the end of each week, kinda like a Cost Plus deal. I charged a minimal fee like $1000 week for my time. Then at the end, we split everything 50/50.

But.......I was a really experienced, really high end GC, with my own crews and subs that I provided. That's what made it worth 50/50 to him. If you're not able to be/do that, then I would think the split would be more like 60/40,  65/35, 70/30....


 @Bruce Woodruff, that makes sense and helps out a lot, I greatly appreciate the info. 

Post: Looking for info regarding working with a partner that has the ca

David Garcia
Pro Member
Posted
  • Financial Advisor
  • Tampa, FL
  • Posts 53
  • Votes 26
Quote from @Bruce Woodruff:
Quote from @David Garcia:

When I have done it, I was the GC and my partner was the money guy. I handled EVERYTHING except the money and we split the money 50/50.

YOur deal sounds different so see what others say about how to split.....


@Bruce Woodruff, actually my situation is the exact same. I will be doing EVERYTHING minus the funding. So when you say 50/50 split, are you referring to the Monthly cash flow and the cash out when refinancing or the sale of the property? Thanks

Post: Looking for info regarding working with a partner that has the ca

David Garcia
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Posted
  • Financial Advisor
  • Tampa, FL
  • Posts 53
  • Votes 26
Quote from @Greg Scott:

Pretty much everything is negotiable withing the boundaries of the law.

You talk about your partner, which usually implies they have put up equity, but then mention paying them back for funds borrowed which implies they are a lender.  Of course, they could do both.  Those two activities are quite different so each would need to be discussed and clarified.


 @Greg Scott, Thank your for your response Greg. Let me clarify, I have someone that will provide me with the funds for the down payment. How would you normally go about paying that partner back? What is the best option for the both of us and how much of a return is normally to be expected in this situation by that partner?

Post: Looking for info regarding working with a partner that has the ca

David Garcia
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Posted
  • Financial Advisor
  • Tampa, FL
  • Posts 53
  • Votes 26
Quote from @Bruce Woodruff:
Quote from @David Garcia:
Quote from @Bruce Woodruff:

You'll need to get a legal entity for your partnership first. This should spell out each partner's responsibilities. Who is the manager? Who does the work? Who puts in how much money? What is the split on profits (and expenses)?


@Bruce Woodruff, thanks for replying. Are you referring to an LLC when you mention getting a legal entity?


 Yes, or an S Corp. Ask to see which one is more appropriate for your venture.

@Bruce Woodruff, ok thank you for that. Now as far as repayment to my partner, how is that normally set up? What percentage is expected or common? Monthly payments, lump sum, or both? 

Post: Looking for info regarding working with a partner that has the ca

David Garcia
Pro Member
Posted
  • Financial Advisor
  • Tampa, FL
  • Posts 53
  • Votes 26
Quote from @Bruce Woodruff:

You'll need to get a legal entity for your partnership first. This should spell out each partner's responsibilities. Who is the manager? Who does the work? Who puts in how much money? What is the split on profits (and expenses)?


@Bruce Woodruff, thanks for replying. Are you referring to an LLC when you mention getting a legal entity?

Post: Looking for info regarding working with a partner that has the ca

David Garcia
Pro Member
Posted
  • Financial Advisor
  • Tampa, FL
  • Posts 53
  • Votes 26
Quote from @Greg Scott:

Pretty much everything is negotiable withing the boundaries of the law.

You talk about your partner, which usually implies they have put up equity, but then mention paying them back for funds borrowed which implies they are a lender.  Of course, they could do both.  Those two activities are quite different so each would need to be discussed and clarified.

Thank your for your response Greg.  Let me clarify, I have someone that will provide me with the funds for the down payment. How would you normally go about paying that partner back? What is the best option for the both of us and how much of a return is normally to be expected in this situation by that partner?

Post: Looking for info regarding working with a partner that has the ca

David Garcia
Pro Member
Posted
  • Financial Advisor
  • Tampa, FL
  • Posts 53
  • Votes 26

Hello BP, I am new to biggerpockets and have been researching RE for about 6 months. With all of the great info here on BP, YouTube and reading RE investing books I have soaked in a lot of info. I am looking to buy my first multifamily within the next 3-6 months and have a question on partnering with someone who has the funds for the down payment. I do have my own cash/HELOC as well but am curious on how it works when using a partners funds. How does that normally work as far as repayment? Do I pay them part of the monthly cash flow I receive? Is it a lump sum payment when I refinance down the road? How does the partnering usually work as far as paying back the funds borrowed from my partner? I want to thank you in advance for any insight and help anyone can provide.