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All Forum Posts by: David Flores

David Flores has started 34 posts and replied 217 times.

Post: New to BP-Living in Manchester, NH

David FloresPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Morgantown, WV
  • Posts 235
  • Votes 135

Welcome Joe! You have made a great decision to get involved. I started out investing in Real Estate with 2k dollars to my name and 120k in student debt. No Money Down real estate investing is very powerful and was the way I got out of my rut. Seems like you are on that path too. I would try to get away from bigger cities as it is harder to get no money down investing deals done. Not impossible but you need to have solid connections because in bigger cities/sub-urban areas people know the next guy is going to put in an offer in a couple days and it will be all cash or at least more money down. These are just stronger offers and sellers are more comfortable with them. If you go to areas that do not have saturated markets getting a no money down deal done becomes a lot easier. Check out small towns with colleges around them or places that do not have a lot of residential owners. 

Post: No Money Down Question

David FloresPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Morgantown, WV
  • Posts 235
  • Votes 135

Hi Justin,

Yes, no money deals can be funded in a ton of different ways. Especially if you are talking about a private lender. In this situation Brandon was talking about a situation that the money does not need to be paid back until the sale or re-finance of the home. Or in more simple terms, when he was done with the rehab. What he was able to do after fixing up the property is re-finance at a way higher appraisal value. He probably banked some money, paid off the hard money person, and then his margins were still high enough to make some cash flow so he went that route instead of completely exiting the property. THE POWER OF NO MONEY DOWN is awesome! 

Post: No Money Down Investment!

David FloresPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Morgantown, WV
  • Posts 235
  • Votes 135

Investment Info:

Single-family residence buy & hold investment.

Purchase price: $200,000
Cash invested: $4,500

Closed on another seller financing property!!!

What made you interested in investing in this type of deal?

Great margins and the opportuity to close on another seller financing situation.

How did you find this deal and how did you negotiate it?

Found this deal through a listing agent I have a good relationship with. This was a pocket listing.

How did you finance this deal?

Closed on another seller financing property!!! The seller agreed to carry the entire cost of the down payment to the bank. I was able to convince the seller to do this by raising the sale price 20k. It was originally listed at 180k. The reason I did this is because the deal still worked for me at large margins with a 20k increase in the purchase price. This 20k increase in price got the seller to agree to carrying the down payment. The terms were great too 25 year amortized, 5.5%, 10 year balloo

How did you add value to the deal?

Will be adding value through upgrades.

Did you work with any real estate professionals (agents, lenders, etc.) that you'd recommend to others?

Lawyers and a lender

Post: No Money Down Investment!

David FloresPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Morgantown, WV
  • Posts 235
  • Votes 135

Investment Info:

Single-family residence buy & hold investment.

Purchase price: $200,000
Cash invested: $4,500

Closed on another seller financing property!!! The seller agreed to carry the entire cost of the down payment to the bank. I was able to convince the seller to do this by raising the sale price 20k. It was originally listed at 180k. The reason I did this is because the deal still worked for me at large margins with a 20k increase in the purchase price. This 20k increase in price got the seller to agree to carrying the down payment. The terms were great too 25 year amortized, 5.5%, 10 year balloon payment. This gives me enough time to build the equity I need to re-finance and keeps the margins high on the rental income. Excited about this one!! In a great location and has great rental history.

What made you interested in investing in this type of deal?

Great margins and the opportuity to close on another seller financing situation.

How did you find this deal and how did you negotiate it?

Found this deal through a listing agent I have a good relationship with. This was a pocket listing.

How did you finance this deal?

No Money down, seller financing.

How did you add value to the deal?

Will be adding value through upgrades.

Did you work with any real estate professionals (agents, lenders, etc.) that you'd recommend to others?

Lawyers and a lender

Post: 401k Withdraw Good or Bad idea?

David FloresPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Morgantown, WV
  • Posts 235
  • Votes 135

100% take your money out of your 401k. Think about all the additional benefits of buying a rental property that your 401k will not produce. Your going to put down 33k but then after that you have tenants paying off a huge investment for you, plus you will have additional cash flow on top of this. 401ks are great, but real estate is the better investment. After 30 years that 33k in your 401k will probably be around 100k, given a 5% average return. After 30 years though your property will be worth over 300k, depending on the market this could be wayy higher, given appreciation and tenants paying off your investment for you.

Post: I found the deal, presented it to a partner...now what?

David FloresPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Morgantown, WV
  • Posts 235
  • Votes 135

@John James, a good attitude necessarily wont get you far, but you can 100% count on a bad attitude getting you no where.

Networking is a big part of real estate. Make as many friends as you can. Thats how people get involved in great deals.

I would recommend just having a solid conversation with the investor and ask him what hes open to do doing. If you don’t ask you will never know. Taking a finders fee is also not a bad thing. Make the hard cash and then fully 100% own the next deal you find. Cash is king, and thats still true in real estate.

Post: Anyone work with Assured Lending all before?

David FloresPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Morgantown, WV
  • Posts 235
  • Votes 135

@Tim Woodbridge, just dealt with this guy too. He is 100% a scam. He originally gave me a term sheet and a pre-approval for a loan. Barely asked for any information, he actually did not ask for any information, I voluntarily told him. 

It looked great to begin with and I was pretty excited as I thought I found a great lender I could build a relationship with. But, then red flags really jumped out. Asked for a commitment amount of 5k (never heard of this) and told me he would be paying for my inspection and get a lawyer I would have to pay for. Funny thing was I got an inspection done already and I sent it to him but he said he needs to get his own also. I said okay man that is on you then, not paying for 2 inspections here. 

He then gave me the excuse that he is flying back to his country in 2 weeks and needs to close soon and needs the money asap. He also got very testy over the phone telling me how much risk he is taking, literally almost whining on the phone. I was like okay this guy is not professional. 

He told his name was John. Not Alex as stated above which is another huge red flag. His name was John Rodriguez on his email and he sounded like he was 100% from asia, which is another red flag. Also I see above that his company was stated to be in Ponoma CA. When I spoke to him his company was in Whittier CA. Another red flag. Below was his email signature 


Looked their address up on google and called the building. Asked if "assured lending is in the building as I am looking to speak with them" and I think this confirms all our beliefs, they were not in the building and had no one under the name Assured Lending or John Rodriguez. 


So, they are definitely a scam. 

Post: I avoided the 40K Guru schemes, now where do I start?

David FloresPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Morgantown, WV
  • Posts 235
  • Votes 135

@Francisco Franco, great question! Read my investment deals I have completed so far. I used seller financing to help me hurdle this barrier. Also, there are so many great private money lenders out there. Network on this site, I have ran into great people who can help you with down payments or sometimes fully fund the entire deal! 

One section from the famous book Rich Dad Poor Dad that I will never forget is don't just say something doesn't work and forget about it. On every deal, no matter how ****** or good, ask yourself how CAN i make this work. Figure out how it would work for you, explain it to the listing agent/seller, and make an offer and see what happen. Worst thing that happens is someone says no. 

Post: I avoided the 40K Guru schemes, now where do I start?

David FloresPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Morgantown, WV
  • Posts 235
  • Votes 135

@Francisco Franco I had the same problem when i wanted to start in New Jersey/New York. There are definitely strategies that work for real estate investors in OC, New York, and New Jersey. This usually consists of buying distressed properties and flipping them. That being said, when I was first getting started I did not have the resources, capital, or network to do this. Now I am starting to put together a great network where this is possible, but not quite ready for that plunge. 

My advice to you is you have to look else where for the time being. Just this year I got involved in real estate and bought 4 properties and another one under contract. The first 4 are in a college town down south. I drive down there about every 2 months to check up on my properties and view more. This is a 6 hour drive, 1 way! You have to be committed. The 4th property I am under contract for is in Bethlehem PA which is about 1.5 hours from me. Same kind of situation, it produces amazing income. 

The way I got started in these towns is I literally just called a bunch of listing agents and set up a bunch of appointments for one weekend. For example, I would go down to this college town on a Friday night, air bnb that night, see 6-10 different properties on Saturday, meet 6-10 different listing agents, and even if I don't like any of the properties I now have 6-10 different connections in a town I am not even from. I keep in contact with them all the time and I get a deal sent my way at least 1-2 times a month. Some of them being pocket listings. Befriend these people, be very nice when you meet them, ask them how they became successful in real estate, do they invest, get to know them. I did the same thing in Bethlehem PA.

Why listing agents? Reason is, they are usually more experienced, have more connections, and if you contact listing agents for Duplexs, Tri-plexs, Quad, etc they know the investing world. I literally only use listing agents and when I close they are duel agents. Some people may tell you this is not a good idea because listing agents are only in it to represent the seller. I have not found this to be the case. I go by a very lax attitude which is, most people are good people. This is so true and not many people are looking to screw you over because for 1 they are liable as a duel agent and two if you are an investor and they are good at what they do, you are more valuable to them then the seller. Also, if you are smart and know the game its impossible for someone to get the best of you. Trust but validate. 

Anyway, this strategy works well. If I were you I would find a market near you that has a good rental market. (1-5hours away). Any property that looks interesting, call the listing agent, be friendly, tell them about yourself, and set one weekend to see like 5-10 different places. Try to make each person a different listing agent, so you are meeting as many people as you can. Give them your contact information and when you need to talk to them CALL THEM! A simple email saying "I am not interested in the property" is not going to get you a future lead. Call them, explain to them why you don't like it, get into a conversation with them, open up, and I guarantee you the next pocket listing they have they will let you know about it. 

I am fairly new to the game but im telling you this strategy works. Right now I have 3 other deals on my plate that I still need to analyze, all pocket listings. Try it, and let me know how it works out. The long drives obviously suck but if you give up one weekend to make solid connections it will pay off huge. Get some coffee, beef jerky, bring ur wife/friend/gf, create a play list and make the best of it! Also renting out a dope air bnb helps!

Post: How to get a TRUE Appraised Amount

David FloresPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Morgantown, WV
  • Posts 235
  • Votes 135

@Bill F. yes that is what i used to come up with how I knew the appraisal was just based soley on the purchase price. The comps listed in the report made little to no sense. For example,  they had 5 bed room duplexs in the range of 200-250k. The most comparable one was a triplex duplex with 9 bedrooms that came in at 330k. 

If this is a unique property and considering it is a 4-plex, would I be able to recommend a bank to go the income approach. This seems like it would be the most logical thing to do as comps seem way off.