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All Forum Posts by: David M.

David M. has started 11 posts and replied 61 times.

Post: Issuing rent receipts for rent payments?

David M.Posted
  • Investor
  • Cincinnati, OH
  • Posts 61
  • Votes 35

With 37 units, you don't have digital software like Buildium that can be set to automatically email a receipt?

Post: Tenant Screening Form/Scoring System

David M.Posted
  • Investor
  • Cincinnati, OH
  • Posts 61
  • Votes 35
Originally posted by @Sarnen Steinbarth:

Some screening services will give you automatic screening recommendations.  Have you considered using a service that applies a screening recommendation automatically?

 I'm interested in this thread as well. My issue with automatic screening services is that most of our properties are in lower-income areas where standard criteria would struggle to get us qualified applicants. We need to be able to tailor the weight of different arrives for this particular situation.

Post: Can You Afford Property Management...?!

David M.Posted
  • Investor
  • Cincinnati, OH
  • Posts 61
  • Votes 35

I don't see the monthly 8-10% as a good value for the work they do, and I certainly have no interest in signing up for the perverse incentive scheme of rewarding them with a big chunk of money (1 month's rent) when something bad (turnover) happens to my property.

Edit: For what it's worth, I would take issue with your first line. I invest in buy-and-hold properties "on the side," as I have a full time job. However, I consider it to be a part-time job in a business I own, with all the attendant systems and paperwork. I certainly wouldn't say I only "dabble in it," but it's not a full-time job for me, so the opening line of your piece seems to imply we aren't successful. Maybe I'm misreading it.

Post: Do potential tenants balk at screening costs?

David M.Posted
  • Investor
  • Cincinnati, OH
  • Posts 61
  • Votes 35

We need to be careful about the word "afford." I can "afford" to buy a $100 cup of coffee a couple times a month, and my life wouldn't be demonstrably worse. That doesn't mean I see it as a good value. Likewise, be wary of alienating tenants who can "afford" application fees but don't see them as a great exchange of money for just a "possibility" of renting the property.

Post: Do potential tenants balk at screening costs?

David M.Posted
  • Investor
  • Cincinnati, OH
  • Posts 61
  • Votes 35

As a tenant, I would not pay $100+ to apply for three homes, to be honest...and I'm in pretty good financial shape. I'd want to know that the money I paid was going to secure the home if I meet the criteria, not that it *might* secure the home.

Post: Do potential tenants balk at screening costs?

David M.Posted
  • Investor
  • Cincinnati, OH
  • Posts 61
  • Votes 35

I collect applications with a disclaimer that I select the best candidate based on the applications, then collect their app fee before running the checks. If everything on the application is truthful, I accept the tenant, sign a lease, and apply the application fee to their deposit. If anything in the application was misleading, I keep the fee, tell them why they've been denied, and move on to the next applicant.

Post: Got my duplex yes!... Now what??

David M.Posted
  • Investor
  • Cincinnati, OH
  • Posts 61
  • Votes 35
Originally posted by @Joey Arata:

Tom I think you saved me from my own ignorance. I was just going to process a check off the info they give. I will certainly get a authorization form. I definitely want a quality tenant. But is 3x rent gross income standard. My unit rents for 850, making gross monthly income would be 2550. Not sure if that's too high or too low. But seems like a good benchmark. I think I'm going with copy of license with authorization form. Don't want to be doing checks without verifying identity. If I go through I online agency for credit and background do they provide more then just score normally, or each service different? Thanks again! Bigger Pockets community proving to be enlightening.

I think the 3x income rule is a benchmark from the mortgage industry, where you must earn 3-4x monthly mortgage payments to qualify for the loan.

Not sure if that helps, but they was my impression.

Post: Rental Application Scoring System

David M.Posted
  • Investor
  • Cincinnati, OH
  • Posts 61
  • Votes 35
Originally posted by @Tom Ott:
Originally posted by @David M.:

Hello,

Would anyone be willing to share his or her scoring system when evaluating applications? What variables do you consider, how much weight do you put on each variable, etc.?

We have a portfolio of lower-income rentals, which means hard and fast rules that meet serve higher-end property owners well simply don't work as well for us. We have to delve mute into the"grey area" of sometimes...less than stellar financial or criminal pasts.

Does anyone score their applications on a universal system?

 Hello David!

Great question, but can you give me some more information? Do you mean what system to use to determine if a tenant is good or not?

 Yes, exactly. I know BP has a flow chart for whether to approve tenants, but in $20,000 SFHs that rent for $650 a month, I'll never rent the property if I have to wait for good credit scores, no evictions, no criminal history, a year at their current employer, etc.

I'd just like to develop somethingmore standard than 3x monthly rent and my impressions based on background and credit checks.

Post: Rental Application Scoring System

David M.Posted
  • Investor
  • Cincinnati, OH
  • Posts 61
  • Votes 35

Hello,

Would anyone be willing to share his or her scoring system when evaluating applications? What variables do you consider, how much weight do you put on each variable, etc.?

We have a portfolio of lower-income rentals, which means hard and fast rules that meet serve higher-end property owners well simply don't work as well for us. We have to delve mute into the"grey area" of sometimes...less than stellar financial or criminal pasts.

Does anyone score their applications on a universal system?

Post: Buildium raising prices again?

David M.Posted
  • Investor
  • Cincinnati, OH
  • Posts 61
  • Votes 35

I've used it for six months and haven't heard of a price increase. I like the ease of setting up ACH payments through our own branded website, and the accounting isn't too difficult once you get the hang of it. I do wish the mobile app were more functional.