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All Forum Posts by: Darrell Kirby

Darrell Kirby has started 11 posts and replied 39 times.

Post: Tenants Are not paying Rent

Darrell KirbyPosted
  • Ypsilanti, MI
  • Posts 39
  • Votes 10
Quote from @Dennis McNeely:
Hi Darrell - I have a flat right down the street from you, in Wyandotte. I started an eviction a month before the Covid moratorium went into effect, and it still took Judge DiSanto at the 27th district court 13 months to evict the tenant. I hope you're dealing with someone else!

Hi Dennis. Oh wow. That would be a nightmare. I hope it does not take that long. 

Post: Tenants Are not paying Rent

Darrell KirbyPosted
  • Ypsilanti, MI
  • Posts 39
  • Votes 10
Quote from @Theresa Harris:

Talk to your lawyer and ask about how long the wait times are with the courts.  Give the tenants the option of moving out before it goes to eviction.  Once an eviction is on their record, it will be harder to find a rental.  If you do the cash for keys, do it on the condition that the place is left in good condition and do NOT hand over any money until you inspect the unit and get the keys.

Hi Theresa,

Thanks for the input. I am staying on top of the attorneys and checking the courts to see where the case is. I tried cash for keys but no response from the tenants. I will keep waiting it out to see a finanl eviction from the courts.

Post: Tenants Are not paying Rent

Darrell KirbyPosted
  • Ypsilanti, MI
  • Posts 39
  • Votes 10
Quote from @Melanie P.:

As others have stated continuing to work with the tenant is fine, but always preserve your timeline to have the eviction process up and going. This would mean having the 7 day notice served by the 10th in most cases. 

Make sure you are equipped to do your own 7 day notice after working with this lawyer. Also ask for an update as to when the case will be filed in court or for a case number so you can call the court for a status update.

Hi Melanie,

Thank you for the information. I did finally get the case number and demand papers. The 7 day notice was sent some time ago but I still hear that I cannot do anything until the court finalizes the eviction date. I agree that 7 days is when the process should start. Although they were served with the 7 day notice they are still there taking advantage. I am not waiting on the courts to move forward. It is frustrating. You wish you could just move them out but legally I can't.

Post: Tenants Are not paying Rent

Darrell KirbyPosted
  • Ypsilanti, MI
  • Posts 39
  • Votes 10
Quote from @Nathan Gesner:
Quote from @Darrell Kirby:

I agree with the others. Excuses are fun, but they don't change my process. Rent is due on the first. Late fee is charged on the 5th. I start the eviction process on the 10th.

You've allowed them to go three months without paying, so they are going to play this out as long as you allow them to. If you can't handle this on your own - quickly and correctly - then hire an attorney.


 Hi Nathan,

Thank you for the feedback. I did retain an attorney. The papers were filed. I made a mistake at not filing quicker but I did file and start the process the same month. The property management did a mitigation which held up the process. Very frustrating. I will never allow that to happen again. Live and learn. It will be 7 days to begin the process in the future.

My primary goal is to get them out. I am waiting on the courts for final word. 

Post: Tenants Are not paying Rent

Darrell KirbyPosted
  • Ypsilanti, MI
  • Posts 39
  • Votes 10
Quote from @Michael Smythe:

@Darrell Kirby which attorney are you using?

Hopefully, they focus on evictions, so they aren't overcharging you and know what they are doing.

ROOKIE MISTAKE (no offense): You should NEVER accept tenant excuses because - desperate people do desperate things!

You can be polite, but you need to be firm.

You should have sent a 7-Day Eviction Notice for nonpayment ASAP, to show the tenants time is ticking to pay or move. This gives you the upper hand in negotiating payments with the tenant. Until you file, they hold all the power, not you.

Your only other option is cash-for-keys. 

PM us if you want a deeper chat.

Hello Michael,

Thank you for your input.

I have had to stay on the attorney to communicate what was happening. I finally got a copy of the paperwork stating demand and possession. The tenants say they of course did not receive it but I am sure they did. I had the Property Management company start the process and they went through a so called mitigation. I think they took to long trying to resolve it with the tenants. You are correct, ROOKIE MISTAKE at not filing earlier. I tried cash for keys but got no response. They do not seem to take it serious that they will be evicted. I have told them multiple times that either they pay or they will be evicted. It has been filed but now I am waiting for the slow courts to make a court date. Live and learn.


Post: Tenants Are not paying Rent

Darrell KirbyPosted
  • Ypsilanti, MI
  • Posts 39
  • Votes 10
Quote from @Ko Kashiwagi:

Hi Darrell,

It's best to start the eviction process as soon as possible in these scenarios. In Michigan, you would need to serve a Demand for Possession to the tenant. If the tenant does not comply, you can file an eviction case and the court will typically schedule a hearing within few weeks of filing. In general, the whole process to repossess the property can take few weeks to few months. Alternatively, you could try cash for keys.

Hi KO,

I did try cash for keys and talked to the tenants. I have started the eviction process and it is now in the hands of the courts to set a date. The tenants are not responsive and I have found out that it is a waiting period. Unfortunately some people take advantage of the law and I think this may be one of those cases. We will see how quickly it is resolved.


Post: Duplex with 2 bedrooms

Darrell KirbyPosted
  • Ypsilanti, MI
  • Posts 39
  • Votes 10

Investment Info:

Small multi-family (2-4 units) buy & hold investment.

Purchase price: $144,000
Cash invested: $30,000

Duplex with 2 bedrooms, 1 bath. Laundry appliances in each unit.

What made you interested in investing in this type of deal?

Low cost with a good cash flow. Units were occupied.

How did you find this deal and how did you negotiate it?

An agent referred it to me.

How did you finance this deal?

With a HELOC from my property.

Lessons learned? Challenges?

Replacing any tenants that have a bad habit of not paying.

Did you work with any real estate professionals (agents, lenders, etc.) that you'd recommend to others?

I worked with an agent and a lender.

Post: Tenants Are not paying Rent

Darrell KirbyPosted
  • Ypsilanti, MI
  • Posts 39
  • Votes 10

I purchased a Duplex that already had tenants(Ecorse, MI). This is my first property. I have one unit that always pays but a couple in the other unit paid once and are now 3 months behind. I talked to them and they just come up with excuses. I have retained a lawyer and they filed notices but the courts have not yet scheduled a hearing. When should I start the eviction process in Michigan and is there anything else I can do to get these people out of the property? It is very frustrating. 

Post: Financing Options for First timer

Darrell KirbyPosted
  • Ypsilanti, MI
  • Posts 39
  • Votes 10

I have read about various ways to finance Rental properties and was wondering what the best option is for a first time rental property purchase. I am looking into possibly using my credit union, 401 or using hard money. I definitely plan on purchasing my first multi-family(Duplex,4plex) for a good deal but it's making the right financial choice in regards to financing. Any suggestions are appreciated.

Darrell