All Forum Posts by: Dante Fortson

At the end of the day, I'm almost certain that most of the people in this thread have NEVER been to Vegas. Most of the city activities are 18+ and I don't see any shortage of tourism. To say a no kids and no pets business model won't work is absurd.

Slot machines are nothing more than adult arcades and the hotel rooms are in most cases nothing more than glorified studio apartments. Try getting one during a convention.

No kids and no pets is a PROVEN business model that works.

Convincing 18 couples on the WHOLE planet to rent a tent is easy money. Especially when you have an extensive background in sales and marketing like I do.

Doubt all you'd like, but marketing is the reason there are people buying $1,000 phones even though there are $200 phones that do the same thing.

A project like this is all about PERCEPTION more than price.

How much did people pay to be packed into small tents at EDC? Over $600 per person.

A pool, live music, and giving away free stays to specific YouTubers makes this more of a lifestyle type of thing than just a basic glamping trip.

Easy money all day every day.

 It's one thing to disagree and be helpful. It's another thing to say "you can't do it because I say you can't do it." That's basically all he came and said. It's not helpful at all. 

You may want to look into Glamping. People are paying $700 per night in some parts just for the seclusion, a view, and modern comforts in a camp setting. 

 I guess I'll address this in points.

1) It's a GLAMPGROUND not a campground. It's also 1 hour from Vegas... and you obviously have no clue that its a tourist capital. Tons of locals like to get away without their kids. Almost everything in Vegas is anti kid and anti pet... and yet business is BOOMING.

Pahrump is far enough away for it to feel like a vacation, but close enough so they can get home in an emergency.

2) Just because you are incapable of succeeding with something like this doesn't mean I am. I've already considered infrastructure costs and already have several investors interested in the idea, which we plan to role out in phases.

3) Campsites make $25 - $50 per spot per night... but Glampsites make $200 - $500 per night. I'm not in this to collect pennies.

4) I have a youtube channel with over 20k subscribers and mailing list built over years with 30k+ subscribers that buy my books, content, etc. I also know other YouTubers willing to promote it.

5) I made a lot of money in crypto over the last year and most of the money that will be put up is my own.

6) I will also be placing 12 Helium (HNT) miners across the property to mine HNT coins 24/7. Estimated income based on our 11 current miners is roughly $5,000+ per month whether we book a single site or not.

7) Our first 18 Glampsites will be fully paid for out of pocket and the land only costs $1700 per month, which I only owe $149k more on. No worries on losing the land and since the first 18 sites will be free and clear... no ongoing loan overhead for those.

8. We plan to rent those 18 spaces out for $200 per night each. Only booking 10 days out of 30 gives us $36,000 per month. $36,000 + $5,000 = $41,000 per month gross. Not counting staff and upkeep... still only $1,700 per month out of pocket until the land is paid off. Also, these first 18 will be on a 6 acre themed section of the land. We'll be using the profits from this section to build the 1 acre wedding venue, which we'll charge $2,500 for 6 hours. Another $25,000 per month if we only book for 10 days.

9) We're going into this assuming our sites will only be booked 1/3 of the time.

We've already calculated landscaping, pools, bathroom, staff, etc. We've worked this out in phases. We know what we'll be adding from Phase 1 til finished. My friends and family are already on board to invest even though I don't usually mix biz and personal.

I also make over 6 figures a year outside of crypto because I have royalties constantly incoming along with other sources of income. The thing you don't know is that I'm big on owning my stuff outright. Real estate I'm willing to buy with loans and let other people pay those loans off for me. What I won't do is take out loans to fund the building of the land, which is why people end up in financial trouble. People are welcome to invest, but I won't borrow.

There's always going to be negative people that think they know what complete strangers are and are not capable of making work. You're one of those people I see. You literally know nothing other than what you've read and think you have the full picture. You don't.

I was asking for advice and saying "this will never work" is not advice at all. If you wanna be helpful, then please feel free. If you just came to be negative I'll pray for you because there is clearly something wrong in your personal life if you jump on here just to spread discouragement based on your in inabilities to make things work.

God bless.

Thanks for the heads up. I already planned on septic and well. I'll have to check into whether or not its required to hook up to town resources. 

 Thanks. I'm one of those adults that don't like to have children on my vacation. My original idea was a couple's retreat, but with so much land, I can section it off with different themes to include groups of adults and not just couples. Either way... the kids and pets will not be welcome. LOL

 Not the way I plan on doing it. I plan to have stuff there that adults want to do. Not boring normal camp activities. The whole thing will be designed around taking selfies everywhere. 

All you have to do is scan AirBnb to see what types of locations stay booked and get inspiration from those. Flops tend to only happen to people incapable of thinking outside the box.

@Bud Gaffney thanks.

@Account Closed thanks. My zoning is RH 9.5 and the campground requires a special use permit along with a site plan, which I already have in the works via Fiverr. I plan to have different experiences in each section of the camp, which include themed sections.

@Scott Mac that's exactly what I plan to do but without projectiles. I thought about bows and guns, but seems like a huge liability risk, but the rest is cool. 

The direction I'm going in is camp for adults. No kids at all. The pond is definitely on the list, but I'm thinking 10 feet deep with clear canoe rentals so they can see the fish swim under them. Also snorkeling, basketball, tennis, etc.

I'll include the shower in the price so they don't feel like I'm nickel and diming them.

Entertainment is a great idea. I hadn't thought about that.

I just completed an almost simultaneous close on two different properties. On Friday I closed on 36.4 acres of vacant farmland. This past Monday I closed on a 3bd / 2ba house on 1 acre.

I want to turn the 36 acres into a Glampground experience.

Does anyone have any advice at all as far as setting up a campground on your property?

I've been watching tons of YouTube videos, but being able to ask direct questions is better IMO.

Any information would be helpful. Thanks in advance. 

@Brenden Mitchum thanks for the response. I just saw this. Not sure why my alerts aren't coming through. I will give them a call tomorrow.