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All Forum Posts by: Dan Thomas

Dan Thomas has started 11 posts and replied 209 times.

Post: Purchase the LLC or the property alone

Dan ThomasPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Bow, NH
  • Posts 212
  • Votes 184
Quote from @Shannon Vistisen:

Good Morning,

I'm working with an investor (family) who owns raw land within an LLC. We were going to partner together on it where I build and run a STR on it. Now, moving forward he offered for us to take it over completely. I want to know is it more cost effective or easier to purchase the property alone and put it in a mortgage in our name or purchase the LLC from him that holds the property within it.

Any information is greatly appreciated! This is uncharted territory for both of us.

Thank you!


I think you will definitely want to talk to your lawyer because there may be items linked to this transaction you are not considering. In general though, I would think that if this is a partnership LLC you could make a capital contribution in return for equity in the LLC. If you are paying cash for the STR this seems pretty easy. If you are taking on debt for the STR this gets a little more complicated, but not much. Your lawyer will have advise for you. Their capital contribution should be pretty easy to establish as it would be the value of the land.

Like I said, I'm not a lawyer and I would suggest you talk to one but this seems logical to me. 

Post: Is Relying on Cash Flow Feasible?

Dan ThomasPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Bow, NH
  • Posts 212
  • Votes 184

@Christopher Morris

You got alot of great insight already. I'll add that every successful real estate investor i know personally has a w2 job and none intend to get rid of it anytime soon.

Making real estate your primary income source isn't passive unless you have access to significant capital. Not debt but YOUR money. The example that Arn gave you probably gets a whole lot more expensive when you give 8% of gross to a manager to make it passive.

Post: Is it foolish to use a HELOC for a down payment on a rental property?

Dan ThomasPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Bow, NH
  • Posts 212
  • Votes 184

@Jacob Anderson

I've only used my HELOC for investing when I have a quick exit plan. For example funding rehab with the goal of a quick refi to pay off the heloc. There are alot of risks using your heloc and you need to understand how you will make the monthly payments for the heloc AND how you plan to pay off the principle of the heloc. Being 100% leveraged isn't a good thing. It may make sense to save a bit more and invest from a position of power.

Keep in mind most helocs are adjustable. I got bit a couple years ago and went from a 6% rate to almost 10% rate. The impact to a balance of 100 or 200k is substantial. Make sure you are prepared for that and have a contingency for that.

Post: Airbnb claim process

Dan ThomasPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Bow, NH
  • Posts 212
  • Votes 184
Quote from @Sarah Kensinger:

We just made a claim through Aircover last week from a guest that bleed all over sheets. The sheet set was a $90.00 purchase made exactly 8 weeks before the guest ruined it. Airbnb claimed within 8 weeks the worth dropped to $29.00! Absolutely stupid to say the least! We also use Rental Guardian and add the charge to each booking so essentially the guest is paying for their own damage insurance. We've never had any issues whenever we submitted a claim, and they would take care of the type of situation you're dealing with. 


 Thanks!  I'll check them out.  I have not looked into them previously.

Post: Airbnb claim process

Dan ThomasPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Bow, NH
  • Posts 212
  • Votes 184
Quote from @Andrew Steffens:

Sorry about your frustrating issue - Airbnb is not only guest friendly but most of the time they will be the one paying for damage so they are going to try to minimize you.  Do you by chance have it written anywhere to close all doors and windows?  Seems like you should not have to but showing they broke house rules leading to damage may help.  Also you may want to reopen new cases as different reps lead to different results a lot of the time in my experience.


 We don't specifically ask for them to "close" but we do ask for them to lock the door behind them.  I would assume any halfway intelligent human being would understand we mean "shut and lock" but maybe I assume too much.  We can certainly be more blunt in our wording.

I will try a different rep..good idea, Thanks.

Post: Airbnb claim process

Dan ThomasPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Bow, NH
  • Posts 212
  • Votes 184
Quote from @Bryant Xavier:

@Dan Thomas did you get a plumber to do this also? I think having it in writing from a plumber would help this case a lot. A PM is a professional in managing property, not plumbing. 


 I don't see the value there....paying a plumber to come re-iterate common sense.  I suspect I will throw more money at a problem Airbnb has no interest in covering

Post: Airbnb claim process

Dan ThomasPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Bow, NH
  • Posts 212
  • Votes 184
Quote from @Patricia Andriolo-Bull:
Quote from @Dan Thomas:

@Patricia Andriolo-Bull

Yes, they stated they would not cover the chair.

Yea, not sure how to prove that. We have cold winters in northern NH. We heat and keep the doors closed and don't have issues normally. I guess I can't wrap my head around the fact that anyone can make an argument as to how the doors and windows being left open was not the root cause of this issue. Seems clear as day to me....


 Out of curiosity, how long after a guest leaves do you or your cleaners check on the property?  I assume it would have to have been quite a while for it to get cold enough inside for the pipes to freeze.  Perhaps this is their argument as well?  It is always important to have eyes on as soon as possible after a guest leaves.  Not laying blame here, trying to help find ways to help you get airbnb to help cover by thinking through what they may be thinking.


 We had a back to back booking that day so the cleaner was there at exactly check out time to ensure they could turn the place in the 4 hour gap we have.  I can't speak to what time these slobs left as I don't require notice but the cleaner was there promptly.  

Post: Airbnb claim process

Dan ThomasPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Bow, NH
  • Posts 212
  • Votes 184
Quote from @Patrick Osterling:

Hi Dan, sorry you're going through this. Have you tried going directly through your insurance provider? 


 It doesn't make sense.  It's only $1200.  I am just really frustrated that they advertise this insurance that they refuse to pay out.  I have supplemental insurance so I am of the mindset that they should get rid of this bogus insurance and lower my host fees..

Post: Airbnb claim process

Dan ThomasPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Bow, NH
  • Posts 212
  • Votes 184

@Patricia Andriolo-Bull

Yes, they stated they would not cover the chair.

Yea, not sure how to prove that. We have cold winters in northern NH. We heat and keep the doors closed and don't have issues normally. I guess I can't wrap my head around the fact that anyone can make an argument as to how the doors and windows being left open was not the root cause of this issue. Seems clear as day to me....

Post: Airbnb claim process

Dan ThomasPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Bow, NH
  • Posts 212
  • Votes 184

@Bryant Xavier

Yes we provided documentation from the property manager who responded stating that the cause was the open doors and windows...didn't seem to help.