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All Forum Posts by: Dan Lucchesi

Dan Lucchesi has started 3 posts and replied 13 times.

Post: STR vacancy ideas

Dan LucchesiPosted
  • Posts 13
  • Votes 3
Quote from @John Underwood:

Lower price and advertise in more placed.

I even get an occasional booking from a perpetual free Craig's List ad.


 Do you mind sharing what your Craig's List post looks like? We own and manage two and one is particularly difficult during the shoulder (slow) seasons. We've never advertised. We do lower rates, and I'm curios if others have run into a "floor price" below which you just get problem guests. We've observed a certain and different price at each place that below which we get difficult guests. It never ceases to amaze us how at one for example, we peak at $400/night with solid 5 star reviews. Then in the slow season we are at $119/night and people complain about the value and little ticky tack things that no one complains about above $200/night. 

As others have already said, you definitely can remain the host and make another party the co-host, but then allow them to do all the guest communication, pricing, booking, etc.

The only tax implication I would say is that I'm sure you will be paying the co-host something. Their expense is simply another business expense like the utilities, taxes, insurance, supplies, HOA, etc. So, it will reduce your net income and therefore your taxable income. But, that is the only tax implication of engaging another host.

Quote from @Account Closed:
Quote from @Dan Lucchesi:

I have been investigating having cost segregation studies done to two STR investments I own. I'm getting some pushback from my CPA of several years. He is a former IRS auditor, before going out on his own. He is definitely more conservative in his advisement, but seems willing to go along with defensible positions that fall within the tax code. We are taking advantage of two new tax saving opportunities that require some additional research and paperwork on our end. We provided that and he was happy to get on board with those strategies. But, he seems very concerned about the prospect of doing Cost Segregation for the depreciation on these two properties. Our original and adjusted basis on each property falls in the $400s and the Cost Seg studies are being quoted in the mid-$2,000 range per property. Our CPA has suggested that Cost Seg is for investors with millions invested in real estate, and more predominately on the commercial RE side. He has suggested that this may be more of a red flag to the IRS. Furthermore his point is that regardless that this is likely defensible, that IF there is an audit the cost (and/or time) of an audit defense may outweigh the benefit of the cost seg. However, with the bonus depreciation (maybe not the correct terminology) it appears to accelerate the depreciation and make the up front savings very significant.

And additional detail that is important / relevant is that I am a full-time licensed real estate broker. I have a hard time imagining that I would not meet the qualification of "Material Participation in Real Estate" as a real estate professional, which would allow me to apply the bonus deprecation toward my earned income as a real estate professional. I still need to look up the IRS guidelines around the qualifying real estate professional. But, part of his point is that IF I do not qualify, it may be a long time before I can take advantage of those losses from the bonus depreciation anyways. Overall, he seems to want to do a basic cost seg for me on the FF&E and Capital Improvements and leave the original basis of the property on the conventional depreciation schedule.

I would love some feedback, personal experience, thoughts on this matter. I need to decide pretty quickly to file for 2023 or file extension and order these cost seg studies. 
 


 cost seg and REPS usually increase odds for audit, but please keep in mind Today, an American's overall chances of being audited are about 1 in 200. Moreover, three-quarters of all audits are correspondence audits in which the IRS sends the taxpayer a letter in the mail asking about one or two issues.


 Thanks Zach. That is good perspective. 

Quote from @Michael Plaks:
Quote from @Dan Lucchesi:
To clarify, when you say, "so is being a Real Estate Professional," I assume you are referring to the IRS recognition of qualifying real estate professional, rather than to the the public's widely understood meaning of the phrase, correct? 
Yes, the tax status. Public hates you for a different reason. :)

 HAHA. I've always tried to avoid the many ways that cause the public to hate us. I would welcome a much higher barrier to entry for our industry. What other industry dealing with hundreds of thousands of dollars of people's money lets people become licensed in three weeks and no formal education? 

Quote from @Michael Plaks:

In my experience, former IRS employees are often poor tax advisors due to their brainwashing while working for Uncle Sam. Maybe it's time for an upgrade.

Yes, cost segregation - or, rather, the resulting large loss - is an audit flag. So is being a Real Estate Professional. Both are completely legitimate strategies, and there is no reason to avoid these strategies out of fear of an audit. Just have your ducks in a row in case you are audited.
Thanks Michael. I could see how that kind of indoctrination could limit one's thinking.

To clarify, when you say, "so is being a Real Estate Professional," I assume you are referring to the IRS recognition of qualifying real estate professional, rather than to the the public's widely understood meaning of the phrase, correct? 

I have been investigating having cost segregation studies done to two STR investments I own. I'm getting some pushback from my CPA of several years. He is a former IRS auditor, before going out on his own. He is definitely more conservative in his advisement, but seems willing to go along with defensible positions that fall within the tax code. We are taking advantage of two new tax saving opportunities that require some additional research and paperwork on our end. We provided that and he was happy to get on board with those strategies. But, he seems very concerned about the prospect of doing Cost Segregation for the depreciation on these two properties. Our original and adjusted basis on each property falls in the $400s and the Cost Seg studies are being quoted in the mid-$2,000 range per property. Our CPA has suggested that Cost Seg is for investors with millions invested in real estate, and more predominately on the commercial RE side. He has suggested that this may be more of a red flag to the IRS. Furthermore his point is that regardless that this is likely defensible, that IF there is an audit the cost (and/or time) of an audit defense may outweigh the benefit of the cost seg. However, with the bonus depreciation (maybe not the correct terminology) it appears to accelerate the depreciation and make the up front savings very significant.

And additional detail that is important / relevant is that I am a full-time licensed real estate broker. I have a hard time imagining that I would not meet the qualification of "Material Participation in Real Estate" as a real estate professional, which would allow me to apply the bonus deprecation toward my earned income as a real estate professional. I still need to look up the IRS guidelines around the qualifying real estate professional. But, part of his point is that IF I do not qualify, it may be a long time before I can take advantage of those losses from the bonus depreciation anyways. Overall, he seems to want to do a basic cost seg for me on the FF&E and Capital Improvements and leave the original basis of the property on the conventional depreciation schedule.

I would love some feedback, personal experience, thoughts on this matter. I need to decide pretty quickly to file for 2023 or file extension and order these cost seg studies. 
 

Can anyone share or recommend a fairly boiler plate disclaimer / advisement to include in our "guest book" and also check-in instructions for the STRs that we own? 

Context: I am also a Realtor in CO and for us it's become important to disclose to would-be-buyers touring our seller listings when there is audio and video recording equipment in use. It's occurred to me that it's probably not a bad idea to include this in our check-in instructions and guest book for our own protection. After all, there is a impact on guest privacy.

Note: we do not actively monitor guests / activity. However, it's important to have cameras for a few reasons, to verify check-ins, security when vacant, evidence in the event of an incident, violations of pet policy, etc. 

Kyle,

I haven't done any STR's in Durango specifically. It would be nice that close to home. However, we try to target markets with the best returns. Durango, has a lot more seasonality that you would expect, from what I've heard from others in the STR management and cleaning fields. Durango is more of a summer market believe it or not. It hasn't seemed like a good enough return given the high prices of homes around Durango.

We should talk off line. I'll send a private message and share my phone number. 

Hey Kyle. Your post caught my attention. My wife and I invest in STR primarily. And, a lot of my real estate brokerage business is oriented toward investors. I'd love to participate. And, it may not be quite the right fit, as I'm a fair bit farther West in Southwest, CO - Durango specifically. I'd still be happy to network by Zoom if that works?? Perhaps with the lower population density (fewer investors??) a SW CO virtual meetup may work better anyways??

Post: Vacation Rental Rehab

Dan LucchesiPosted
  • Posts 13
  • Votes 3

Investment Info:

Condo buy & hold investment.

Purchase price: $405,000
Cash invested: $15,000

It is a modest rehab and hold for short term rental strategy. We bought it in August 2020 and work with some close friends to provide 3rd party STR management. It cash flows very well.

What made you interested in investing in this type of deal?

The cash flow and secondary benefit of personal use.

How did you finance this deal?

2nd Home loan.

How did you add value to the deal?

We rehabbed and also furnished the property.