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All Forum Posts by: Daniel Petta

Daniel Petta has started 3 posts and replied 31 times.

Post: Commercial portfolio lending help

Daniel PettaPosted
  • Investor
  • California
  • Posts 32
  • Votes 16

Thanks @Sasha Mohammed

IF they cash-flow positive on their own, I also would recommend you split your purchase contract into individual purchases for individual properties and go DSCR financing on each.


I suppose a commercial mortgage broker would be best for these DSCR loans?

Post: Commercial portfolio lending help

Daniel PettaPosted
  • Investor
  • California
  • Posts 32
  • Votes 16

Sorry @Vessi Kapoulian and @Stephanie P., I should have clarified the structure of the portfolio deal.  It's $400k portfolio deal for two separate properties:

* One 9 unit apartment building

* One quadplex.

The wholesaler said he would do separate purchase orders for each.  I would assume I could go the traditional mortgage route for the quadplex but would have to go commercial for the 9 unit apartment building. 

Post: Commercial portfolio lending help

Daniel PettaPosted
  • Investor
  • California
  • Posts 32
  • Votes 16
Quote from @Dennis Muno:

I would recommend you give a local mortgage broker a call and ask them to try and find you some financing offers.

Thanks Dennis.  Would these "local" mortgage brokers be local to the property or local to myself in California?

Post: Commercial portfolio lending help

Daniel PettaPosted
  • Investor
  • California
  • Posts 32
  • Votes 16
Quote from @Vessi Kapoulian:

@Daniel Petta: You have received great suggestions so far. I would add that IF the quads are individually parceled, you may be able to get individual residential or DSCR loans on each quad. This is more administratively burdensome but at least an option.

They are individually parcelled.  Since it's a portfolio what I need to be able to split the purchase? 

Post: Commercial portfolio lending help

Daniel PettaPosted
  • Investor
  • California
  • Posts 32
  • Votes 16
Quote from @Mirtis Sison:

Hi Daniel! I happen to know a lender that may be able to finance your deal. Would you like me to ask them if your property might be approved?

Yes, please dm me with details.

Thank you

Post: Commercial portfolio lending help

Daniel PettaPosted
  • Investor
  • California
  • Posts 32
  • Votes 16

Hey everyone,

I'm pursuing a whole deal for this portfolio of two properties (9 unit apartment / quadplex) and having trouble finding financing options and was hoping for some advice.

I am new to real estate investing and finally closed on my first property two weeks ago, a duplex in Milwaukee, and now have this Indiana wholesale deal that I'm very interested in but can't seem to find a way to finance the deal.  

I've called local banks and commercial lenders and they all have said no for a mixture of reasons but the highlights are:

* I'm an out of state investor (based in CA that will use local property management)

* The deal is less than $1M ($400k to be exact)

* I'm not a seasoned investor (yet)

I'm in a position that I can purchase the unit with cash, borrow against stocks as a bridge loan but want to refinance shortly thereafter. The units are stabilized with good cash flow and fully leased so no immediate rehab but there will be some down the road. The units cash flow pretty well with my conservative underwriting with a 1.35 DSCR and 11% cap rate

So any guidance would be helpful.

My strategy is to invest in multifamily for cash flow and long term hold so these affordable 5-12 unit apartments are enticing seems that finding financing is a struggle?

Post: Estimating rehab work for newbie

Daniel PettaPosted
  • Investor
  • California
  • Posts 32
  • Votes 16
Originally posted by @Shelby LeBlanc:

@Daniel Petta The costs for different rehab items varies by location. Example, in Houston a re-roof is roughly $200 per square of roof. Only if the roof is not 2 story or steep. Electric is approx $90-$95/hr. Contractors charge more if they know you are an investor.

Thank you for this.  Yeah, I'm going to start contacting general contractors in the area I want to invest in and see what I can get back from folks.  Good advice about knowing that I'm an investor but truth is that I won't be able to hide this from them.  I hope to find a GC that works with out of state folks and doesn't charge too high of rates.

Post: Investing out of state in Racine

Daniel PettaPosted
  • Investor
  • California
  • Posts 32
  • Votes 16
Originally posted by @Cooper Tanquary:

I'm a young, new real estate investor and the area I live in is too expensive for me to start purchasing rental properties locally. I've done some market research and landed on Racine as a great area to start my first BRRR. Since this is out of state for me, I'm looking to get in touch with an entire team out in Racine. Does anyone know property managers, real estate agents, and/or contractors in Racine who would be willing to chat?

Thanks everyone! (Also, I'm new to Bigger Pockets forums so please let me know if this post is more appropriate elsewhere)

 Hello Cooper, I'm in the same boat as you, looking to invest into the Racine & Kenosha markets for long term cash flows in multifamily.  I've connected with Corina Eufinger who works in Property management and she's been great thus far.  

Post: Estimating rehab work for newbie

Daniel PettaPosted
  • Investor
  • California
  • Posts 32
  • Votes 16
Originally posted by @Jaron Walling:

@Daniel Petta The ONLY WAY to accurately calculate rehab costs is by walking the property. You'll want to develop a scope of work for each room and write (or type) notes for issues you find. After that you start pricing materials and factor in labor (the most expensive aspect) to complete the renovations. Finding contractors is huge. I don't have advice for that because I'm not in your market. I took the approach to learn some skills, DIY, and hire contractors for big ticket items. Your approach could be different but that's why distressed properties are fun.

You'll find real quick the best deals do NOT REQUIRE massive rehab. Kitchens, baths, flooring, HVAC, water heaters, and roofs are a must fix but if you're new to flipping or remodeling don't buy a challenging property. You'll find more surprises (every property has them) that cost you money and more importantly time. The longer it sits empty the more it costs you. 

If you're buying for cash-flow renovate with durable materials that look OK and be happy with boring finishes. It's a rental property so renovate it and run it like a business. You'll increase the value either way if you bought it correctly. Make sure the breakable/ touchable plumbing fixtures are new. That's where you'll get water leaks in the future. Replace the doors and locks. The hinges and door frames get beat up after years of abuse. Actually repair and test things on tenant turnovers. You'll fix issues before they break on Sunday evening at 9pm. Cheers.  

Good advice.  I've seen alot of complete rehab deals and I was already thinking that this is too much work regardless of the discounted purchase price.  I agree that I'd like to find something with cosmetic rehab needs.  

I'm guessing that from this thread I'm really just going to have to go through with my first one to get my beak wet to then understand what the costs could be.

Post: Estimating rehab work for newbie

Daniel PettaPosted
  • Investor
  • California
  • Posts 32
  • Votes 16
Originally posted by @Cody Lewis:

Others that know how to hammer a nail on here may have a better idea, but I would start by building relationships with local contractors. Having a good partnership can go a long way not only for this property but for others in the future. They can give you a ballpark on cost for construction. Also, I would ping your local REI meetings for those that have done similar work. Based on your area, labor cost can be the biggest difference in expenses.

Thank you!