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All Forum Posts by: Dan Christie

Dan Christie has started 4 posts and replied 21 times.

@Account Closed I am well aware of the typical structure of loans with regard to regulations and the criteria on why a bank would and wouldn't finance the deal. I didn't ask my bank to underwrite the deal and never said i did. I simply replied to the questions pertaining to deals in the $1MM range in my area. I then said the problem with the property is the schedule E. I never said i brought it to a bank for underwriting nor did i say i tried to purchase the property so I'm not sure where you're coming from in your reply. 

@Brian Garrett Not so much defered CapEx though there is that but it's more to do with the Schedule E

I am aware of a 25 unit value add for $1,050,000. Big upside but she needs love. They don't come around often at this price point for 25 units but for $1MM you can buy but, the bank won't finance it LOL

Originally posted by @Wilburt King:

@Dan Christie

Hello Dan are these actions the result of a soured landlord tenant relationship.

 No to the contrary when approached by my attorney to see if she wanted surrender the unit without being legally evicted she said "No Dan is a nice guy and I have nothing bad to say about him but I'm not leaving". It's her son more then her but she is responsible for her self and her guest. She just knows the system very well being a professional tenant. She was inherited from when I bought the place and looking at her record there is a list a mile long of her and her family doing this. I didn't even mentioned she had her daughter and her 2 kids move in as well. 7 people in a 1 bedroom apt.

Im not in California but here in Michigan all evictions have been shut down unless there is excessive damage or an immediate health hazard. I have one tenant who hasn't paid in 6 months, broken 6 of the 7 windows in the unit, put a hole in the hallway I just had skim coated and repainted, kicked in the front door to the point the jamb actually came out of a plaster wall, broke the glass window on their apartment door, broke the shower glass door, broke another small window on a basement door, kicked in a door leading to the mechanical room so their homeless friend could sleep in the room and subsequently died last week of a heroin overdose in said mechanical room. Now 2 court dates and one zoom bench trial later I need to provide specific dates of damages. LOL I couldn't make this horror story up if I tried. I figure I will be out about $20,000 once their finally out and rehab is done this is including 2 attorney fees. I just thought i would share this story with you to let you know you don't have it that bad yet. Luckily I bought right and it's not a huge deal in the long term scope. Good luck 

Post: New Real Estate Investor in Kalamazoo, Michigan

Dan ChristiePosted
  • Grand Rapids, MI
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 8

I invest in Kalamazoo and will say it's a challenge if you're looking in the historic district. There are A LOT of issues that come out of left field if you're not accustomed to historic district guidelines. The only maintenance issues you can do on your own (exterior) is Painting, Planting, and Pavement so generally speaking everything else needs to be approved. Windows are my biggest issue on rehabs good luck "replacing" them. You need to have them rebuilt which is ridiculous for pricing and even then turn the pages on a calendar if you do want to pay the price because it takes awhile. My other issue is the homeless and the obvious things that come along with that. The Police in the area are AWESOME and respond VERY quickly to any issues but they can only do so much based on the standards the city allows. I have had A LOT of nightmare scenarios i could write a book on. If you would be scared to walk the streets at night and don't have the ability to do daily checks i would stay away from the historic district if you're buying a value add property. The returns are AWESOME but I am very hands on and very accustomed to actively removing individuals from my properties, garages, attics, porches etc...I have a saying "If it's vacant, It's game on". On a positive note i love these old homes,they have great returns and the area really is coming around. I see a lot of young investors such as myself are buying these properties and fixing them up, raising  rents, and moving in a new tenant base. There are new apartment buildings going up and there has been major investment by nearby business so if you can handle the rain for a bit you will enjoy the sunshine a few years from now. 

As far as tenant turn over i don't see much as rents are somewhat lower in the historic district unless you're buying a completely rehabbed building. Rents i see are generally $600-$800 for decent 1-2 bedroom. They go up from there and some are lower, again it depends on the building and its location. I personally stay away from the north-side and focus mainly in the historic areas of the Vine neighborhood and the Edison area. Tenant base also usually stays put as they are lower income and can't really afford to move so it's a pretty safe environment from consistent turn over. I do not do student housing so i can't speak to that. It's not that i am opposed to that i just don't have any students. Overall It's a challenge but real estate is what i love and all i ever wanted to do so i deal with it with a smile on my face and enjoy the 3% rule. Good luck to you           

Post: First deal 3 properties 2 months in

Dan ChristiePosted
  • Grand Rapids, MI
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 8

Well I am 2 months into my first deal. I purchased 3 properties from a "Tired and worn down landlord". The original owner had multiple properties throughout the area he was looking to liquidate and step back from land lording of theses type of properties for a while. I toured the properties and quickly realized why he was looking to step back. He had owned the properties for 10 years and really hadn't put much money into them other then the money required to keep section 8 happy and paying the rent. To his credit these properties are located in a historic district and trying to do much to the exterior other than painting, planting, and pavement is next to impossible. To say i was apprehensive is an understatement. A few of the items that scared me were the following. Hallway was sloped 2" from side to side so there was definitely structure or foundation issues, all the tenants smoked so saying there was a lingering smell of smoke is beyond an understatement, walls were literally orange and caked with cigarette smoke as was the soffit outside two windows, multiple broken windows, peeling paint, doors stuck shut from wear and tear, broken front doors, and the worst part was every tenant knew his name and addressed him as if they were old pals (big problem). I knew they were mismanaged and very neglected as the expenses also stated. On the plus side there was 17 units out of the 27 he was selling that i wanted. I purchased a 9 unit, 6 unit, and a 2 unit.  

The purchase was not going to be through a bank due to the neglect and inherent issues and i wasn't going to put a huge down payment with the amount of work and "restructuring" of the tenant base that was and is required. Originally i asked for owner financing and he agreed but later found out that wasn't going to work out at tax time for him as he wanted to 1031 the proceeds into another albeit nicer property but we were doing a 3 year term and the tax implications were not conducive to him as the sale would be noted as happening this year and not 3 years down the road at loan maturity as he was hoping. That would be defeating the ability for him to offset taxes and proceeds into a 1031 as he would have have realized the sale proceeds and consequences of the sale, but not the actual proceeds this year, but rather 3 years down the road. It's confusing and I am not a CPA or lawyer i just pay a lot for each to suggest their best ideas. After everything we ended up settling on a Land Contract that made us both happy and got me into the properties and him out of the mess that these properties are.

Overall the transition has been almost what i expected other than a few hiccups along the way. I wanted to do all the managing through an online system that handles all the calls and the collections such as hemlane or Avail but of course if you think 90% of these tenants have an email address you're as crazy as i was. The majority of the tenants are through multiple local agencies and as such most have mental or very light imbalances so yeah......they don't use much technology and have no computers nor cell phones so they sure as hell don't have an email address lol. So against all my better judgement and something i swore i wasn't going to do i march my pretty little self down there each of the last 2 months on the 4th for what?......cash payments ugh. Cash is nice but not in this way. So cash payments suck, picking up rent sucks, 3 broken windows, front door knob busted off twice in the same week, a toilet being used for number 2 but broken for 7 days just as Mr Brandon turner experienced, 3 police reports, basement ransacked and all the former owners tools were stolen, basement door kicked in and literally busted out of the casing, 3 vacancies (I'm actually happy about that), 1 tenant behind 2 months, all utilities in my name, cockroaches, insect infestation, and a brick through a picture glass window and water coming through the ceiling in a unit literally 1 hour after i closed on the properties oh and back to the slopping hallway....$21,000 for the repair of the foundation because all utilities need to be moved to accommodate the new post and structural beams going in hahahaha. Through the first 2 months I couldn't be happier and you still can't take the smile off my face because this is what i signed up for, this is what i have always wanted to do with my life, and I fricking love real estate. Also i recently discovered through my terrible due diligence there is an INCREDIBLE 1800 sq ft attic with almost 11 ft ceilings that will add about $1700 a month in rent once complete....winning

OK numbers i purchased the 3 properties for $435,000 i put $15,000 down and my note is at 7% for 3 years when i must pay off the loan or sell the properties. My payment is right around $3000.00 a month and the properties produce about $9500 in rent. I pay all utilities that last month ended up being in the $1500.00 range i don't have the exact figures in front of me. I'm pretty happy with the overall deal and the recent discovery of the attic. 

I'm allocating around $3500 to turn each unit and this last unit actually resulted in almost $6,000 but it's due to the leak from upstairs, rot around the shower, and completely tearing out the tub, shower, cabinets, and floors. Going forward I'm instituting a RUBS in the 9 units, and the utilities in the 6 unit are already sub metered so I'm not sure why the former owner did't separate them but hey that's a win for me. I'm forecasting a savings of at least $1200.00 per month through utilities being turned over to the tenants and RUBS. Rents as you expect are under market rate and upon being turned should result in positive $1350 per month at the 9 unit and almost $1250 at the 6 unit. Completely leased up that will result in a $3800.00 per month positive adjustment through proper management and turned units without counting the additional rent of $1700.00 per month from the attic space. So $9500 in rent, $3800 in proper structuring of the properties and management going forward and the potential $1700.00 in additional rent from the attic AWESOME. This is how you win at real estate and with projects that scare off others. Find beauty in the ugly properties and prosper through the proper execution of details. Let me know your thoughts and introduce yourself as I am always looking to meet others who share my passion.              

Post: Investing in Kalamazoo

Dan ChristiePosted
  • Grand Rapids, MI
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 8

Hi Stephanie Welcome to Kzoo rentals. I actually live in Grand Rapids and work in Kzoo and thought about buying a recent portfolio in Kzoo as its a great area to invest in and still growing. As @Nate Chucta said they go quick if they are in a nice area near the university and not asking for the moon. I was looking a little closer to the downtown area as there is still value to be had downtown but it may require a little hands on management. There are other schools near the downtown area so it's a great place all around it just is a little hit and miss within a few streets distance. You guys should love the area for your rentals and i would be happy to do any boots on the ground for you if it helps you in any way. Good luck.  

Post: West Michigan Rookie

Dan ChristiePosted
  • Grand Rapids, MI
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 8
Originally posted by @Mitchell Luban:

@Dan Christie Welcome! I am a real estate agent and investor in GR. I would echo what a lot of people have said above. The market is fast paced and we have a shortage of inventory which can make for good profits if you can find deals. I have a few rentals and doing a flip right now. We are finding all of our deals off market! Would love to connect! Cheers!

 Hey Mitchell I am looking at finding buy and holds maybe flips as well but my expertise is minimal in both aspects. Learning as i go right now but stay in touch i would love to find some local people to work with.

Hi Ram where do you meet. I am in Grand Rapids and would love to find a group to do meet ups with