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All Forum Posts by: Dalton Foote

Dalton Foote has started 5 posts and replied 34 times.

Post: Multifamily Properties in Indianapolis

Dalton FootePosted
  • Contractor
  • Indiana
  • Posts 37
  • Votes 21
Quote from @Drew Sygit:

@Natasha Rooney congrats on moving forward!

Hopefully, you find the info below helpful.

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Recommend you first figure out the property Class you want to invest in, THEN figure out the corresponding location to invest in.

Property Class will typically dictate the Class of tenant you get, which greatly IMPACTS rental income stability and property maintenance/damage by tenants.

If you apply Class A assumptions to a Class B or C purchase, your expectations won’t be met and it may be a financial disaster.

If you buy/renovate a property in Class D area to Class A standards, what quality of tenant will you get?

Similarly, if you put several Class D tenants in a Class A 4-plex, what do you think will happen to the property?

So, when investing in areas they don’t really know, investors should research the different property Class submarkets.

Here’s our OPINION for the Metro Detroit market (use as a template for your target area!) that we’ve learned in our 24 years, managing almost 700 doors across the Metro Detroit area, including almost 100 S8 leases:

Class A Properties:
Cashflow vs Appreciation: Typically, 3-5 years for positive cashflow, but you get highest relative rent & value appreciation.
Vacancy Est: Historically 10%, 5% the more recent norm.
Tenant Pool: Majority will have FICO scores of 680+ (roughly 5% probability of default), zero evictions in last 7 years.

Class B Properties:
Cashflow vs Appreciation: Typically, decent amount of relative rent & value appreciation.
Vacancy Est: Historically 10%, 5% should be applied only if proper research done to support.
Tenant Pool: Majority will have FICO scores of 620-680 (around 10% probability of default), some blemishes, but should have no evictions in last 5 years

Class C Properties:
Cashflow vs Appreciation: Typically, high cashflow and at the lower end of relative rent & value appreciation. Can try to reposition to Class B, but neighborhood may impede these efforts.
Vacancy Est: Historically 10%, but 15-20% should be used to also cover tenant nonpayment, eviction costs & damages.
Tenant Pool: majority will have FICO scores of 560-620 (approaching 22% probability of default), many blemishes, but should have no evictions in last 2 years. Verifying last 2 years of rental history very important! Also, focus on 2 years of job/income stability.

Class D Properties:
Cashflow vs Appreciation: Typically, all cashflow with little, maybe even negative, relative rent & value appreciation
Vacancy Est: 20%+ should be used to cover nonpayment, evictions & damages.
Tenant Pool: majority will have FICO scores under 560 (almost 30% probability of default), little to no good tradelines, lots of collections & chargeoffs, recent evictions. Verifying last 2 years of rental history and income extremely important to find the “best of the worst”.

Make sure you understand the Class of properties you are looking at and the corresponding results to expect.


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Post: Value Add MultiFamily

Dalton FootePosted
  • Contractor
  • Indiana
  • Posts 37
  • Votes 21

@Colby Fryar thanks for the insights! Yes I definitely need to obtain a network of brokers locally here in the commercial/multi space. Connections are definitely everything especially on this side of the industry 

Post: Value Add MultiFamily

Dalton FootePosted
  • Contractor
  • Indiana
  • Posts 37
  • Votes 21

@Jonathan Klemm that is great advice for first time buyers! It's not for me and I'll have a decent amount of cash to work around from allow me not to do that but for most people it makes complete sense. I think I'd be fine with conventional or similar if I can't find partners. 

Post: Value Add MultiFamily

Dalton FootePosted
  • Contractor
  • Indiana
  • Posts 37
  • Votes 21

Hey Joshua, 

I have seen in my experience as well how much pm's can help with investors just wanting out of certain properties. That is definitely a good idea and strategy! I will build upon that in the multifamily side for sure this year. Kudos to you for utilizing and actually finding deals on FB. Maybe I'll get more serious on that but for now it's just too much spam and scam for me to scroll through ha. I think negotiations on knocking the price down on inspection items on value add will be huge especially if its a flip like you mentioned. Thanks for your response and personal experience/advice! 

Post: Value Add MultiFamily

Dalton FootePosted
  • Contractor
  • Indiana
  • Posts 37
  • Votes 21

@Matthew Drouin That is what I am planning on doing starting out. Personally I feel as if it will be a good way to scoop up a good value add someone just wants to get rid of. Especially with me owning my own gc company, I am probably willing to take on some buildings with a little more tlc needed that may scare other investors or cause too much headache. I'd imagine once you get bigger and do more deals your network naturally grows and you no longer have to market in those same ways or just naturally grow out of it. I feel as if it's a great way to start but not always the best option as you grow and get better deals through connections. Thank you for your detailed feedback and experience I will be sure to look into Yellowletter HQ! 

Post: Value Add MultiFamily

Dalton FootePosted
  • Contractor
  • Indiana
  • Posts 37
  • Votes 21

@Frank Pyle you should have my info via email a couple of weeks ago. Feel free to reach out! 

Post: Value Add MultiFamily

Dalton FootePosted
  • Contractor
  • Indiana
  • Posts 37
  • Votes 21

@Keagan Scott I responded to your PM. Thanks! 

Post: Value Add MultiFamily

Dalton FootePosted
  • Contractor
  • Indiana
  • Posts 37
  • Votes 21

@Calvin Graves thank you for your perspective and experience! 

Post: Value Add MultiFamily

Dalton FootePosted
  • Contractor
  • Indiana
  • Posts 37
  • Votes 21

@Anderson Banegas Cerrato looking to start out in my local market indianapolis! 

Post: Value Add MultiFamily

Dalton FootePosted
  • Contractor
  • Indiana
  • Posts 37
  • Votes 21

I have partnered with individuals on fix and flips but my goal for 2025 is to buy my first LTR. I have a lot to learn on this side until then but am looking at buying a value add multifamily rather than residential. Any suggestions on finding that first deal? I plan on driving alot to find distressed or run down multifamily properties that possibly are owned by an out of state investor and reaching out however would like everyone's opinion or personal experience on some other creative ways. I own a licensed gc company so if it is in a decent area I know I can add alot of value to it at a cheaper price since there won't be any labor or material markups. Any lenders, agents, or connections would be great too! Looking at fall/winter 2025 at the moment as I will have a decent chunk of liquidity if needed to throw at it by then. Thanks!