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All Forum Posts by: Account Closed

Account Closed has started 9 posts and replied 29 times.

Post: Fix-n-Flip Gone Wrong

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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Laconia, NH
  • Posts 37
  • Votes 51

Thank you @Cassie Montalvo and @Charlie DiLisio I appreciate the advise.  The problem is we are super tapped out and we have nothing else to invest in this property.  I would love to finish the job and get it finished.  We tried to find a way to refi the property out of the hard money loan and turn it into a short term rental.  However we were unable to get approved on our own.  We asked our investors and some other people in our network and got denied.  So we are still left with a firesale option. 

Post: Fix-n-Flip Gone Wrong

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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Laconia, NH
  • Posts 37
  • Votes 51

Here is brief story about my first flip.  

My name is Dakota Coburn and I decided a few years ago that becoming a real estate investor was the right career path.  I spent 12 month researching, reading, analyzing, going to seminars and even paying for a mentor, which I do not entirely feel like was a waste but I do not recommend it unless you really know what you are doing. Bigger Pockets as well as a few other sites offer everything needed for new investors that the mentors do, and they are all way over priced and usually a scam. 

Anyway on to the deal.  Denver Property just outside of Cherry Creek. We bought the property from a wholesaler with an estimated return of $50k profit and an estimated rehab of $105k which quickly turned into closer to $130k.  We had a time line of three months to do the rehab and get it back on the market in Sept. So we went with a hard money loan and raised $110k from investors. In this deal I had my brother and two friends all very interested in giving flipping a try. 

Side note this was the 10th property I had made in offer on during the course of last spring and I had analyzed another 100. So I felt like we had a good deal when we found this property for $445k, adn we were looking at a minimum ARV of $615k.

The problems started right off the bat when we lost our first lender due to low Appraisal, so we had to rush and find a second and got charged an arm and a leg from this lender, but we felt we had a great deal and moved forward. 

Next we ditched our GC week one when is estimate for the work was $30k more then we had budgeted. So we decided we could GC it ourselves. 

Asbestos came up on inspection and put us 10 days behind right off the bat for abatement period. Which gave us time to find a new contractor.  Our first plumber gave us a low ball quote then robbed us of $3500, and we lost two weeks trying to find a new plumber.  Our electrician, did decent work but at a snails pace, and decided through one of our partners he was capable of doing the plumbing, which we found out way down the road that he never pulled permits, wasn't licence and did none of the work to code. So we had an electrician doing his work plus plumbing, dumb, a GC that was really just a carpenter, and a guy doing our new load carrying beam opening up the floor plan, that was nothing more then a great wood worker and never followed the plans from the structural engineer to secure the beam properly. 

So we did all the work and spent $150k on rehab about ($20k over budget), and we listed two weeks after our goal date.  All in all we felt like things were going really well.  Meanwhile I had been living out of state and not watching the progress on a daily basis, come to find out a TON of little details got left unfinished or ignored and all the initial hype of the listing was received with feedback of half *** work. I was confused until I was finally able to take a trip back to CO to walk the property and see light fixtures not cut in right, and trim unfinished, etc.  We listed at the high end of the market at $700k and quickly dropped to $685, then $675.  We ended up going under contract at $615 to find out that permits on the property were never closed and the laundry list of **** that the inspector wouldn't pass would cost about $20k.  

Now we have lost two buyers that pulled out due to the open permits and the inability to close the permits on our end. We are at the point of default with our lender and we are negotiating with them to not go into foreclosure. 

And to top it all off one of the silent investors is threatening to sue for his losses. 

All the fun of a first time flipper. Any suggestions on how to survive this? 

Post: NH Real Estate Investors Association Meeting

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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Laconia, NH
  • Posts 37
  • Votes 51

Do you meet monthly?  If so when is the next meetup?  I will not be able to attend tomorrow.  But I would love to put it on my schedule for Feb.

Post: 11 Capital Finance Lender

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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Laconia, NH
  • Posts 37
  • Votes 51

I really appreciate this as well.  They have been emailing me a lot of opportunities. Thank you everyone. 

Post: REI networking event in New Hampshire

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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Laconia, NH
  • Posts 37
  • Votes 51

I am for sure going to try and make it.  Relatively new to the NH scene and looking to network. 

Post: First BRRRR Investment....

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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Laconia, NH
  • Posts 37
  • Votes 51

Investment Info:

Small multi-family (2-4 units) buy & hold investment in Laconia.

Purchase price: $160,000
Cash invested: $60,000

This has been quite the project. I purchased this property site unseen. My agent viewed it for me and i looked at photos and inspection reports, and I decided to go for based on potential cash flow and cash on cash return. The craziest part was also working on my first flip at the same time. I highly recommend not doing this a first time investor. Everything imaginable has gone wrong. Finally I have the first floor rented and I am three weeks from renting the second floor.

What made you interested in investing in this type of deal?

I love the ability to invest with cash flow and the ability to pull money out to move on to the next project.

How did you find this deal and how did you negotiate it?

I found this on the MLS. It was well under market value as it was in rough shape, and I only negotiated a concession for the clean out from the hoarders.

How did you finance this deal?

Hard money

How did you add value to the deal?

Full tear out and rehab.

What was the outcome?

Still in the process.

Lessons learned? Challenges?

Pay closer attention to the electrical and plumbing details when doing initial inspection. And better understanding of timelines associated with each step of the process.

Post: First BRRRR Investment....

Account ClosedPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Laconia, NH
  • Posts 37
  • Votes 51

Investment Info:

Small multi-family (2-4 units) buy & hold investment in Laconia.

Purchase price: $160,000
Cash invested: $60,000

This has been quite the project. I purchased this property site unseen. My agent viewed it for me and i looked at photos and inspection reports, and I decided to go for based on potential cash flow and cash on cash return. The craziest part was also working on my first flip at the same time. I highly recommend not doing this a first time investor. Everything imaginable has gone wrong. Finally I have the first floor rented and I am three weeks from renting the second floor. The third floor which is my true money maker has to wait until spring. I would love to share more details if anyone is interested.

What made you interested in investing in this type of deal?

I love the ability to invest with cash flow and the ability to pull money out to move on to the next project.

How did you find this deal and how did you negotiate it?

I found this on the MLS. It was well under market value as it was in rough shape, and I only negotiated a concession for the clean out from the hoarders.

How did you finance this deal?

Hard money

How did you add value to the deal?

Full tear out and rehab.

What was the outcome?

Still in the process.

Lessons learned? Challenges?

Pay closer attention to the electrical and plumbing details when doing initial inspection. And better understanding of timelines associated with each step of the process.

Post: Monster 3 unit BRRRR complete!

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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Laconia, NH
  • Posts 37
  • Votes 51

Nice work! I am working on my first multi-family BRRR in NH and it is turning into a beast as well. Massive 3300 sq ft three unit as well and we are way behind schedule as no one was able to get started on the project until about five weeks in. Once completed this property will cash flow around $1000/ month, but I am still a few months out. Knee deep in rehab. Thanks for the inspiration.

Post: Looking for a plumber in the Lakes Region of NH. Any suggestions

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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Laconia, NH
  • Posts 37
  • Votes 51

I am getting way on fixing up my first rental property in Laconia, NH and my first plumbing bid was $20k just for labor. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Post: Loan Payoff and Investor Distribution

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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Laconia, NH
  • Posts 37
  • Votes 51

Thank you both for your responses.  Here is more info,  as I have net profit around $53k. 

So when looking at closing cost I am taking 5% for realtors commissions and an addition 1% for other closing costs.  

On my end I have a construction team invested in the deal, work will be done in 8 weeks.  

I understand having a slush account.  When selling the house and looking at profit.  Do I count the $85,000 down payment as part of our return?