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All Forum Posts by: Cory O'Dell

Cory O'Dell has started 7 posts and replied 115 times.

Post: VA Loan vs other loans

Cory O'DellPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Dayton, OH
  • Posts 142
  • Votes 74

FHA at 3.5% down you'll pay PMI over the life of the loan. That part sucks. But using FHA for a year then moving, renting it out, and buying with a VA loan after that would be a way to quickly get two loans with basically no money out of pocket.

Just have to make sure the properties would still cash flow with so little money initially toward principle. Ie: make sure it’s a good deal!

Post: PCS MOVE, NOT FINDING A BUYER YET

Cory O'DellPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Dayton, OH
  • Posts 142
  • Votes 74

Instead of selling you could list it for rent. Or the completely hands-off approach (since you're running out of time to deal with it) is to hire a property manager and let them get it rented.

Post: FHA Loans and how to use them, are there any, "catches"?

Cory O'DellPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Dayton, OH
  • Posts 142
  • Votes 74

You can use FHA. Like others said you'll have PMI though. You can also use a second VA loan, but there are dollar amount limits, just talk to your lender. For FHA, here are the stipulations for military out of HUD 4000.1:

"(7) Military Personnel Eligibility

(a) Standard

Borrowers who are military personnel, who cannot physically reside in a Property because they are on Active Duty, are still considered owner occupants and are eligible for maximum financing if a Family Member of the Borrower will occupy the subject Property as their Principal Residence, or the Borrower intends to occupy the subject Property upon discharge from military service.

(b) Required Documentation

The Mortgagee must obtain a copy of the Borrower’s military orders evidencing the Borrower’s Active Duty status and that the duty station is more than 100 miles from the subject Property.

The Mortgagee must obtain the Borrower’s intent to occupy the subject Property upon discharge from military service, if a Family Member will not occupy the subject Property as their Principal Residence."

I'd do another VA loan before using FHA personally. PMI sucks. But the option is available if you want/need it. Like VA, there are stipulations for condition of the house though, working windows, appliances, 2 years left on roof, etc. Talk to your lender!

Post: Out of country investing woes

Cory O'DellPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Dayton, OH
  • Posts 142
  • Votes 74
Originally posted by @Rachel Luoto:
Originally posted by @Cory O'Dell:
@Rachel Luoto it’s just been from MLS because we’re in Europe. Other forms of marketing are more difficult. We’re getting there though. Made our fourth today so finger’s crossed...again. :)

 Gotcha good luck! Would you mind educating me a bit? Not sure why direct mail wouldn’t work so I’m thinking there’s something I just don’t know! :) 

I mean, anything is possible. But I live in Europe, so mailing out targeted fliers to people would be crazy expensive unless I paid someone to do it for me from there, but that’s another cost as well. Just not very practical. 

Post: Out of country investing woes

Cory O'DellPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Dayton, OH
  • Posts 142
  • Votes 74
@Rachel Luoto it’s just been from MLS because we’re in Europe. Other forms of marketing are more difficult. We’re getting there though. Made our fourth today so finger’s crossed...again. :)

Post: Out of country investing woes

Cory O'DellPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Dayton, OH
  • Posts 142
  • Votes 74
Originally posted by @Darrin Carey:

@Cory O'Dell That's what drives people to the C (and D) neighborhoods. Higher returns. It takes a great Property Manager or you have to be more hands on to do this successfully.

I also did some flips and wholesales to generate more investment capital to hit my cashflow goals quicker. I personally wouldn't try flips remotely, although some people are very successful at it.

I had the same net monthly income goal you do. It took me about 3 years to hit $3000/mo rental cashflow by using wholesales and flips to generate additional investment capital to acquire the rentals.

Good to know, thanks for the feedback. I imagine we'll be pursuing other options as well to get there quicker. For now just going to focus on what's in front of me and getting the first one under the belt, which has proven more difficult than I originally expected. But we'll keep putting in offers on what makes sense and go from there.

Post: Out of country investing woes

Cory O'DellPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Dayton, OH
  • Posts 142
  • Votes 74
Originally posted by @Darrin Carey:

@Cory O'Dell, I understand your frustration. My first investments were back home while I was stationed out of the area. It's tough to get things rolling sometimes. (BTW, I was stationed at Aviano for four years, had a blast) 

The small multifamily market in Dayton right now is sizzling hot, and very competitive. It's driving down returns from a few years ago, but we still have great returns here.

The markets you named are primarily B markets; they have A and C neighborhoods too.

I primarily invest in single family properties. For those with mortgages, I target $150 per door after all expenses, and reserves. (I use 20% of gross rent for Vacancy, Maintenance and CapEx @Kent Hall)

Keep in mind, the higher the property price, the harder it is to hit your per door target number. (Price increases faster than rent can keep up). That keeps most of my properties in B/C areas to keep the numbers where I want them.

I've got to go run appointments, feel free to reach out if you want to chat.

Thanks for your feedback, I feel better about seeing $150 in the cash-flow cell if the more experienced guys are targeting that as well. Though, it would take a lot of capital to turn that into early retirement...roughly $1.5m in leveraged debt for 20 units at $70k to equal $3000 in monthly income, yikes.

Post: Out of country investing woes

Cory O'DellPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Dayton, OH
  • Posts 142
  • Votes 74
Originally posted by @James Wise:

The Real Estate Market in 2018 is 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥Only the agressive buyer's are going to be closing deals this year. I haven't seen this much investor competition in years.

 Unfortunate for us newbies trying to get some skin in the game...patience is key I suppose!

Post: Starting with SFR vs. Small Multifamily vs. Small Commercial

Cory O'DellPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Dayton, OH
  • Posts 142
  • Votes 74

@Kyle Neff Small multi-family seems to have a lot of popularity on the site, and @Brandon Turner advocates for them as well. 2-4 units is a good sweet spot for cash flow and will still keep good financing options, as they are still considered residential. The SFRs I've analyzed in Dayton usually have less than $150 cash flow, where the 2-4 unit properties (depending on area/price) you can still meet $100 per door criteria. My experience so far though has been extremely competitive trying to get those properties though, so don't expect to just jump on the MLS and find an easy deal paying way less than market value.

Post: Out of country investing woes

Cory O'DellPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Dayton, OH
  • Posts 142
  • Votes 74
Originally posted by @Jay Hinrichs:

don't be in a rush to jump in... there are always deals.. and unless you think there is going to be drastic appreciation what are you losing... 2 to 3k by sitting on the sidelines a few years until you get back.. ??  we have some serious herd mentality going on right now..

 Fair point.