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All Forum Posts by: Corey Conklin

Corey Conklin has started 7 posts and replied 129 times.

Post: My Opinion on Building Generational Wealth

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Quote from @Sharon Mittelman:

@Corey Conklin Not sure how old are your kids. when I  started educating my kids they were young.

One of the things I did with them was open a special saving account (local Credit union) that gave  them 6% on the 1st $500. that meant over $2 every month in interest.

When they asked for a new toy - I told them :"you have money in the bank, you can use it but if you do you will het less interest. So do you really want the toy or do you prefer more money from the bank", most of the time they said :"I'll take more money" :)

 @Sharon Mittelman That is a great idea. Help your kids understand that money is a tool to enjoy life and the power of compounding interest!

My child is still young and expecting our 2nd soon. We aren't done having children so it's been a topic that my wife and I have been discussing a lot lately. We not only want our children to work hard and understand how money works, we want them to not attach themselves to material items. Your new toy example does a good job at teaching these principles.

Post: Do You Understand How Ugly This Is Going to Be?

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@Account Closed

Why does everyone always think I'm dead broke because I own a garage full of tools?

@Jim K. Right!?! I love my tools and love getting to use tools (and buy new ones) as much as the rest of the business. 

Just because I know how to build furniture, fix plumbing, paint, lay floor, etc. doesn't mean I don't know how to underwrite, read P&L statements, manage processes and systems, etc.

Post: My Opinion on Building Generational Wealth

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Quote from @Ned J.:

Marcus already stole my quote..... provide your kids enough $$ to do something but not enough to do nothing....

Shaq also has the right attitude with his kids.... he has multiple statements about his wealth and his kids... basically he says " WE arent rich..... I"M rich.... you aint got jack".... you will make your own way in life. I'll be there to help guide you.... you want my $$? Then come up with a business proposal and I'll review it just like any other investment I would make. 

 @Ned J. That quote is very similar to one I'm familiar with "give a man a fish, you feed him for a day. teach a man to fish, he'll eat for a lifetime" 

My job as a father is to teach my kids to fish and watch them go catch their own. Hopefully I live long enough to watch them catch bigger fish than I ever could.

Post: My Opinion on Building Generational Wealth

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Great thoughts.  This is a new topic I'm learning and still have much to learn.  

A qoute I read that I really liked is "leave your kids with enough so they can do anything, but not so much they do nothing".  So far that is going to be my approach.  This could change though depending on my childen's lives (special needs, major accident/setback, etc...)

I agree that the the knowledge is way more important that the wealth.  The data supports this as well as I think most wealth doesn't make it past one generation.  I would love to do it well enough that the students become the teacher and I'm able to invest in their endeavors!

A good place that helped me get started was Dave Ramsey's legacy journey book.  He did help me get started on my personal finance education and I think like most on this site we've tweaked our position as our education grew but it was a great place to get started so I recommend it.  Lots of good points on why just giving your wealth to charity is a bad idea, never occurred to me before.

 @Marcus R. I've never read that book so I'll have to put it on the list. I'm still working to come up with the best solution on what to do with assets/wealth when I pass. I'm not a huge fan of blindly giving it to charity like you mentioned.

I've got a few plans but they are far from normal so I'm still working through all of the details. Still a lot to figure out!

Post: What should we do? Opportunity for 1st rental invesment.

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@Sam Ganden I would buy the house. It's turnkey and is in a good location that historically rents well. That's a good way to get your start into RE investing. 

Post: Do You Understand How Ugly This Is Going to Be?

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Quote from @Corey Conklin:

@Jose Vazquez They will never admit to how hard it is to get that portfolio. If they told you that they had to bust the butts and work 80 hour weeks, who would buy their $1500 seminar? They have to sell how easy it is to do. This then gets people to buy their seminar and creates easy money for themselves. Full circle, just like you mentioned.

I like your shovel example. Find a way to actually provide value to people and you will do just fine. Unfortunately people need to understand that to provide value, you need to work!


Not in a million years will they tell you about the blood you're gonna sling. It's all work ON your business, not IN your business. But in the end, Corey, if I had to do it all over again, I would. It really does beat living paycheck-to-paycheck.

@Jim K. Not only would I do it all over again I would have started sooner! Unfortunately I'm still in the grind of a 9-5, acquiring/managing real estate, and being a family man. It is a lot to juggle but it's definitely worth it.

There is no better feeling than working your tail off and seeing the results of your hard work especially when you reap all of the reward and not some company CEO. 

Post: Do You Understand How Ugly This Is Going to Be?

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@Jose Vazquez They will never admit to how hard it is to get that portfolio. If they told you that they had to bust the butts and work 80 hour weeks, who would buy their $1500 seminar? They have to sell how easy it is to do. This then gets people to buy their seminar and creates easy money for themselves. Full circle, just like you mentioned.

I like your shovel example. Find a way to actually provide value to people and you will do just fine. Unfortunately people need to understand that to provide value, you need to work!

Post: My Opinion on Building Generational Wealth

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This is something I hear real estate investors talk about all the time. Their goal is to build generational wealth for their kids, grandchildren, great grandchildren, etc. They believe by building a good real estate portfolio and acquiring assets they will create generational wealth for their family. I believe I have a controversial take on this stance. I 100% disagree with this line of thinking!

There are stories of family’s that have had multiple generations build wealth through owning land, real estate, oil, etc. that have lost it all in 1 generation! Wealth is incredibly hard to obtain and 10x harder to keep. Just because you are able to hand over your children and grandchildren wealth doesn’t mean that they will know how to keep it. They have to know how to handle the wealth if they are going to keep it. My focus will be on teaching them how to create and keep wealth, not handing it over to them.

How I will focus to create generational wealth will be the complete opposite of what most people want to do. My kids will not be handed anything in life, they will EARN everything. I will not give them money, instead I will be there to teach them what they need to know to get their own money. I will teach them what I’ve learned in my life that they can use to create their own success. When they need advice, I’ll be sure to provide it. When they are struggling through the rough times, I’ll be there to support them. My goal is to create kids who are good people. If I can do that, they won’t need my wealth, they will have their own.

What are your thoughts about creating generational wealth?

Post: Rich Dad says a home is a liability………

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@Corey Conklin - Love it!  That's some great insight.  I'm on board with your line of thinking.  And the more I think about it, it really makes sense.  Lots of other class 2 assets that take work but can make money and aren't traditional assets - trading cards, sneakers, purses, watches, and even education.  

This is ridiculous but I read a story about a guy who bought a shipping container worth of toilet paper early in the pandemic when it was scarce.  I don't remember the numbers but he made a crazy return and most certainly none of us would consider TP to be an asset but he turned it into a class 2 asset and hustled to make it work. 

And completely agree, the idea that you can become rich or even financially free without working is a lie.  And it's a lie that makes the other person rich because folks paid $99 for his/her course.

 @Marcus R. There are so many ways that you can get into class 2 assets like you mentioned. It's something I think not enough people focus on these days. They all want to live the easy life and get their mailbox money by focusing on class 1 assets.

There has been so much focus on real estate and class 1 assets it's becoming less and less lucrative. While all of the focus has been on that I've been working on seizing the class 2 asset boom that I believe is going to happen over the next 5-10 years. 

After hearing the TP story I'll be sure to keep that opportunity in mind! Haha

Post: Do You Understand How Ugly This Is Going to Be?

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@Corey Conklin

I HATE trash like that. Leave a cat and kittens behind, that's total scum, and there are a lot of them out there.

I hope you also picked up a valuable lesson about lying agents, too. As long as the closing goes through and they get their commission...

I still have a nice scar on my hand where I was savaged by a tenant's cat. But to be honest, I should have been smarter.

I have cleanout stories that include, er, soiled marital aids and VHS collections of fat-fetish titles, such as Life in the Fat Lane 2: The Heavy Load. Typically, in those relationships, there's a feeder and there's an eater, the tenant was the eater. I recently saw the feeder walking around my neighborhood, cursed him out loudly on the street. Made my day, really, even though the worthless SOB still owes me $650. I took some satisfaction out of the fact that the little guy was pushing a boy's bicycle with 20-inch wheels up a hill, obviously really going places in his miserable life.


It's awful to see how little a human can care about others, especially towards animals. 

I learned a lot of lessons on that house but it also came with stories I'll be telling for a while.

I think more stories like these need to be told so people can get a better reality of RE investing and learn from some of our hard learned lessons.