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All Forum Posts by: Chris Lounsbury

Chris Lounsbury has started 17 posts and replied 85 times.

Post: Why the BRRRR method may get your assets frozen

Chris LounsburyPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Rock Hill, SC
  • Posts 86
  • Votes 46

I'm probably over-simplifying this, but I would think that the BRRRR method, when done correctly is not what you are suggesting. In fact, it could be argued that it is significantly less risky than the alternative of purchasing a property and leaving your capital in it. As Neil mentioned, when doing the BRRRR method properly, you are forcing appreciation, not relying on the market to create appreciation. You then are locking in long term financing and pulling out up to 70% (sometimes higher) of the appraised value. As inflation increases, this locked in rate, and locked in mortgage value becomes more valuable. Furthermore, your risk is defined by the amount of money you have in the deal. So if you are able to pull out a large portion of your capital, you are in essence, de-risking yourself. As Brandon always mentions, buying a property for 80k thats worth 100k with 0% down is the same as buying a 100K house with 20% down, but which situation allows you for larger mistakes? The one where you still have 20K for reserves or other purposes.

Of course COVID really scared a lot of investors.  And many had to pivot when banks stopped lending for a few months there.  I actually had to do just this.  I was in the process of refinancing in March when appraisers were deemed non-essential in PA, and all the banks backed out of refinancing the property.  But prior to buying the property, I ensured I had a large capital reserve, and that the property would cash flow even with the current hard money loan that I used to purchase, even if it was at 10% interest. I had to wait 3 months until I could start the process over again, but during that time, I made some more repairs, and called more and more lenders preparing for when we would be able to move forward again.  Ended up finding a lender that does 80% cash out refi, which is 10% higher than any other bank I had been in contact with, so COVID will actually end up helping me pull out an additional 10% of my money to reinvest in other deals.  

In regards to your rents decreasing beyond a point of cash flowing idea, that is definitely something to always consider. You never want to be the top of market rents when you are analyzing, so if a market correction occurs, you still should be able to get the rents you want.  But I guess that comes with more experience and understanding that spreadsheet math should always be conservative to avoid any downturn effects. 

Again, I am surely over-simplifying, and if you are not properly running numbers or doing things correctly, then just like all investments, the BRRRR method can be very risky. But for someone just getting started, who may only have 20-30k, this is the fastest and safest way to scale in my opinion.

Post: Multi family investing in Rock Hill area South Carolina

Chris LounsburyPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Rock Hill, SC
  • Posts 86
  • Votes 46

@Matt Basara  

Just curious who you are using for brokerage and property management? Are they/you local to Rock Hill?

We have a local meetup every month at Dust Off.  @Britt Loukos runs the meetup.  Come join us this month.  Best way to find deals is to keep on networking.

If you need any additional help you can PM me and we can discuss! 

Post: Multi family investing in Rock Hill area South Carolina

Chris LounsburyPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Rock Hill, SC
  • Posts 86
  • Votes 46

@Matt Basara hey Matt, fellow Rock Hill investor/agent. Small multis are tough to find down here, especially right now, but they’re out there, especially in the downtown RH area. What are you currently doing to search?

Post: Anyone using RentRedi for rental payments? Good or bad?

Chris LounsburyPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Rock Hill, SC
  • Posts 86
  • Votes 46

Hey @Arron Barnes , I've been using RentRedi for a few months and has worked pretty well for me.  There are definitely some hiccups with it being a small company, but I do have to say that their response time on tickets is really fast.  

I have had no issues with using their rent collection services.  It is perfect for a portfolio size of 5-15 units.  I think once you get more than that, you would need a more expansive program

Post: Investor Friendly Contractor in Clover (York County)

Chris LounsburyPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Rock Hill, SC
  • Posts 86
  • Votes 46

@Britt Loukos not sure if you guys are taking on more work right now!

Post: We BUY & SELL Houses

Chris LounsburyPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Rock Hill, SC
  • Posts 86
  • Votes 46

Hey @Christopher J Metzger, my family lives in Waynesboro, and I have a lot of connections from when I worked in Charlottesville a few years back with a local investor.  If you have any properties > 1,000 sq ft in Waynesboro area let me know.  Anything in Charlottesville near campus or belmont also let me know.  The larger the better in Charlottesville.  Thanks!

Post: Buy and Hold Rental In Rock Hill SC

Chris LounsburyPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Rock Hill, SC
  • Posts 86
  • Votes 46

@Jenny Roman i have a few contacts in the area. Im a property manager here so i know a few of the local vendors. Unfortunately most of the top skilled guys are still getting paid top dollar to do work in Clt so most dont really entertain small jobs here. But if you are looking for a small city poised to grow in the nearish future that is part of a major metro, i would say Rock Hill is a great spot. PM me if you want to talk more. Always happy to help. 

Post: Buy and Hold Rental In Rock Hill SC

Chris LounsburyPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Rock Hill, SC
  • Posts 86
  • Votes 46

Have you run through the calculator Taylor? Will it cashflow when considering all other expenses? Are you trying to make this a cash-flowing asset or just want to experience appreciation on back end? Just curious about your strategy as I too am in the Rock Hill area and always interested in how others are performing here! 

Post: Turbo Tax Question about NonResident State Return

Chris LounsburyPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Rock Hill, SC
  • Posts 86
  • Votes 46

Filing State portion of Tax Return currently. One property had a positive income of $3k.  I bought a second property and we did a bunch of rehab to it, so I had a loss of $12k.  When I put both of these into the schedule E, it says that my income is $3k.  It takes the loss and brings it to 0, before first reducing the income on the other property.  This leaves me with owing money for the nonresident state return.  Am I not understanding how passive income works on tax returns, or is Turbo Tax incorrectly decreasing my loss before adjusting my entire schedule E, not just the one property.  (It worked correctly when I filed the federal portion) Any advice will help! 

Post: The Woes of the Appraisal when Refinancing

Chris LounsburyPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Rock Hill, SC
  • Posts 86
  • Votes 46

It is extremely frustrating trying to do BRRRR deals in an area that doesn't have a ton of comps. The appraisal seems so subjective to what mood the appraiser is in when they do they appraisal. I am currently looking to refinance a property in Carbondale, PA and have begun the process with a couple of banks. The banks offered free appraisals, so I figured I would see which one provided the higher value, and go with them. It is amazing the range of appraisal values that came in. 1 came in at 90,000 but completely forgot to include the garage in the value. When questioned about it, they said I was right, but it does not change the value...how? I thought oh well, the other one will include the garage, so it should come back maybe slightly higher. Instead, it came back at 78,000, and used properties over 10 miles away for comparables. How is is this possible? I get a 12,000 difference in opinion may not seem like a lot when you are talking about more expensive properties, but when you are looking at 16% of the value of the property, that is astronomically wide ranging. Especially when I did a similar sized property 3 years ago that appraised for 120,000 just down the street. It's like they just make up a number sometimes. Has anyone found ways to combat this? Does anyone have any recommendations for banks in Scranton/Northeastern PA? I am beyond frustrated