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All Forum Posts by: Clem Foltz

Clem Foltz has started 0 posts and replied 8 times.

Post: 1st Time House Hack

Clem FoltzPosted
  • Minneapolis, MN
  • Posts 9
  • Votes 15

Hi Zach, NE Minneapolis is one of, if not the strongest locations, especially for small multifamily in Minnesota right now. A couple of comments on this:

With strong markets there is usually a good amount expected future appreciation/rental increases baked implicitly into the properties, as a result it is very typical to see these areas have lower on paper Cash on Cash returns. Even outside of Minnesota think New York, California or Washington D.C. for example. In Minnesota areas like Uptown, around the lakes, and NE Minneapolis the returns for Cash on Cash can look lower. However the reason the expected future appreciation/rental increases are already baked into the properties is because there is such a strong likelihood that these areas stay strong and prices and rents continue to increase that some investors think that it is a given. 5 years from now your rents might be 25% or more higher than they currently are and you might be extremely happy with the property, people who bought in NE 5 years ago are certainly extremely happy. Even if there wasn't room for them to force appreciation or increase income through airbnb, etc.

This can highlight the limitations of using Cash on Cash as a metric for calculating an investment. It tends to be highest in areas that are hardest to manage or have other challenges and tends to be lowest in the more desirable areas (Uptown, around the lakes, and NE). Part of the return equation that some investors choose to exclude is the principle pay down, (with a more expensive property or location you have a larger mortgage, which means you are paying down a larger amount of principle each month, all else equal) and potential or expected appreciation, which is much harder to quantify until after the fact, but more expensive properties tend to appreciate at a larger dollar amount YoY even if its not the largest % increase.

Like Avery said there is a ton of value in simply getting started. My wife and I have purchased a couple of different properties over the last couple years and I think the property you have found is great. Additionally, I would love to live in NE, which at the end of the day is a factor too. Especially if it gets you and your significant other excited about RE and into more opportunities in the future. Also, you may find that after a couple of years of living in the property that you might have been "off" on some of the variables for calculating your returns. (I have been "off" on all of mine). I underestimated rental income and underestimated tax increases and utility expenses... But I have been very happy for purchasing the properties. The analysis paralysis is hard. But I have found that remembering the qualitative factors for investing in real estate should be a large part of the equation as well. (personal growth, learning, lifestyle, location, potential appreciation, etc.)

Post: Best bank/credit union to work with in Minnesota

Clem FoltzPosted
  • Minneapolis, MN
  • Posts 9
  • Votes 15

That does seem really good for a non-owner occupied. I know for a owner occupied we found Hiway Federal Credit Union will go 100% LTV... including at least duplexes... I would say use that knowledge at your own risk. The interest rates are a little bit higher.

Post: First Investment Property / House Hack

Clem FoltzPosted
  • Minneapolis, MN
  • Posts 9
  • Votes 15

Nice job. Congrats! I saw that one hit the market and thought it looked like a solid property.

Post: Bathroom remodel estimates

Clem FoltzPosted
  • Minneapolis, MN
  • Posts 9
  • Votes 15

@Charles Smith You noted the market rate rents for the location are closer to $2000. You can probably get that or close to it without actually renovating the bathroom. Just because the previous owner was only charging $1300 for the same unit. One lesson that we are still learning is that simply relisting a property without making an update is fine and can still be a valid reason to raise the rent hundreds of dollars if the previous owner/manager had been significantly below market.

My wife and I life in a duplex pretty close to where yours is at. And we found that having a slightly dated bathroom can also make tenants feel like they are getting a "better" deal on rent. We chose to not update our rental side bathroom with similar pink tiles and I went back and forth over the decision for a while. In the end we got the rent we wanted and we didn't have to update the bathroom. Our tenants actually said they love the charm of it. Some of those older materials are pretty high quality too.

@Jesse Lynch I know there is at least one HML in the twin cities who will do loans for no money out of your pocket, 100% (purchase price + rehab) if the deal is good enough (<70% LTV) they say they can even roll in closing costs again if its a good enough deal...They have a requirement for a certain amount of reserves based on the size of the loan. So if you are able to find a great deal at the lower end of the MSP price range you may not need to tap your cash and still do a deal. They also host events most months. The company is called Pine Financial. I have not used them myself or have any connection to the company. But I have been to a few of their events. Good luck!

Post: Property Manager recommendations in Minneapolis

Clem FoltzPosted
  • Minneapolis, MN
  • Posts 9
  • Votes 15

David, what property management firm do you use?

Thanks!

Post: Advice in Minneapolis, MN market..?

Clem FoltzPosted
  • Minneapolis, MN
  • Posts 9
  • Votes 15

Hi Mario, My wife and I live in a duplex in Edina right now that we purchased in 2017. The inventory in the west metro has been slim now for a while. My advice would be to save as much money as possible for a down payment, continue to analyze all of the 2-4 units that hit the market on the west metro, and maybe take a look at other parts of the cities for some perspective. I would also highly recommend attending in-person meet up events for real estate, its a great way to learn and meet people. 

Good luck and let me know if you ever want to connect,


Clem

Post: Investment Number 2: Sunnybrook Duplex

Clem FoltzPosted
  • Minneapolis, MN
  • Posts 9
  • Votes 15

Did you buy their other properties? What is the rent in Wadena? Good luck!