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All Forum Posts by: Clayton Silva

Clayton Silva has started 24 posts and replied 443 times.

Post: 1st deal loan modification help

Clayton SilvaPosted
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What is the total loan amount?  What is the value of the home? What is the expected income of renting it on Airbnb? What is your goal (to keep more cash on hand, or to have more cash flow)?  What are the operating expenses of running the Airbnb? Are you hiring a manager, if so what do they charge?

Post: Carpenter looking to be full time investor.

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You don't need verifiable income for ground up construction or DSCR. You will need significant liquid funds though for down payment, closing costs, and reserves. For a new developer with no experience, I would count on having to have 25% of total project cost (if land is 150k and cost to build is 350k, total project cost is 500k so expect to put down 125k). Then you will need funds for closing costs (between 3-5% of loan amount for this kind of project, possibly more). Then enough reserves for overages, unforeseen expenses, and monthly interest payments so another 10-15% in total costs in liquid reserves. A 500k project, you will want to have close to 175-200k liquid.

Unfortunately the 3 asset classes that banks are not fond of right now are rural properties, commercial office space, and vacant land. I have not seen any vacant land loans over like 60-65% LTV in a long time unless you are wrapping development into the loan.

Post: Subject To & DTI impacts

Clayton SilvaPosted
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Yes it is counted toward your DTI. However 2 things to note: 1) DSCR loans for future investment property acquisitions do not care about your DTI (DTI only really matters when buying a new primary or any time you are using a Fannie/Freddie/Ginnie loan). 2) After 12 months of proof of someone else paying it for you, you may be able to omit it from your DTI calculation. However, you will have to explain it to underwriting and they will likely have to be on deed/title which could result in the note being called due.

Definitely a good question that would require a little more homework and guideline digging to know for sure.

Post: Property Management Airbnb

Clayton SilvaPosted
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I know someone who would be interested in that in the area. I'll DM you her info

Post: Bookkeeping for long term hold rentals

Clayton SilvaPosted
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I have been doing everything on Turbotenant and loving it there.  I also use Baselane for banking and accounting because you can mark each transaction with a tag.  Plus Baselane pays like 2-4% interest on the checking account which is nuts!

Turbotenant is super easy to use and cannot recommend them enough.  

The process never seems to be stress free no matter how many transactions you do.  I would just try to enjoy the ride and learn as much as you can along the way.  Document everything so you can streamline the process in the future and learn from any pitfalls along the way.  Really your team are going to be what make a transaction smooth (realtor, lender, insurance agent, title agent, etc).  Lastly, to make it easy on the lender, I would recommend making sure you upload clear, legible, PDF files for documents to save the hassle of having to do multiple requests for the same thing.  Best of luck and wishing you a smooth closing!

Quote from @Nazimuddin Basha:
Quote from @Clayton Silva:

Hey Nazimuddin,

Sorry to hear about the increases, no one likes that for sure.  A couple ideas below:

- Have tenants pay utilities if they don't already

- Refinance into lower rate

- Increase rents (or convert to mid term/short term rental or rent by the room)

- Call the county tax assessor's office to ensure there was no mistake in the tax increase

- Call your insurance broker to get you other quotes

- Sell the property and 1031 into a better market that does not have those issues

- Self manage if you currently have a property manager

Hope these help!

@Clayton Silva, thanks for your feedback! Here are my responses to your questions:

• The tenants are already covering their utility expenses.
• I’m considering refinancing, though my current rate is 2.75% on a 15-year mortgage, which is still better than what’s available today.
• Unfortunately, the condo associations for all my properties don’t allow short-term rentals, which has been a bit frustrating.
• I manage all my properties myself.

As you mentioned, I need to start exploring other developing markets. With property prices rising across the country, it’s becoming challenging to find investment properties that offer solid cash flow.

2.75 on a 15 is going to be close to market rates on a 30 or 40. Might consider a longer amortization period with maybe an interest only option on the front end. Example: 40 year DSCR with a 10 year interest only period. It may reduce the payments.

Post: looking for lenders who would loan on a rent-a-room student housing property

Clayton SilvaPosted
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Quote from @Andrew C.:

that sounds a lot like you're suggesting mortgage fraud. If I know I know i'm going to be renting it out by the room, sign mortgage docs that assert something else, and then immediately rent it out by the room...that's pretty sketchy.

If the home is vacant, the loan is underwritten off the appraisers assessment of market rent. What you do with the home is up to you as long as it's business purpose. 

Most DSCR banks aren't going to have a problem with rent by the room, but getting credit for rent by the room from an underwriting perspective is a nightmare so I was trying to save the OP a lot of jumping through hoops in underwriting.

You do not have to, and often should not, share everything with the bank. Do the bare minimum they ask. But as I mentioned, if you want to share you can, but the most streamlined way is to have one tenant sign the master lease and sublet the additional rooms. 

I'd be a little more careful with the accusations in the future, I've been in lending and banking for years now and know the guidelines well and have closed hundreds of DSCR loans. My entire point is that many different rental types, (Airbnb, rent by the room, RAL, mid term rental, etc) are allowable by the banks, but the easiest way to get to closing is to use the appraisers assessment of market rent if the property is still vacant. If it doesn't DSCR off that, then you have additional hurdles you'll need to show to justify why you'll get higher rents (at this point you would share that you're renting by the room).

Post: looking for lenders who would loan on a rent-a-room student housing property

Clayton SilvaPosted
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Quote from @Andrew C.:

Am penciling out a property and trying to see what our loan options are.
Post rehab, the property will be a 4bdrm 2 bath house, that's a few blocks from a college in southern WI, USA.
Would be rented to 4-6 college students (# TBD). These would be separate 12-month leases.

I'm looking for lenders willing to do a cash-out refi on this (we'd purchase and fund the rehab in cash. est purchase price 90k. rehab 60k. ARV 200k). Any suggestions on who to call?


Easily doable as a conventional or DSCR loan but you are going to want to get the financing in order BEFORE you start renting by the room. It will make it easier to secure financing per most lender's underwriting guidelines (they typically do not like rent by the room). If you have already rented it out by the room, I would generally recommend having one tenant sign a master lease and then have them sublet the rest of the rooms to make it easier for you to get financing as well. Best of luck and hope this helps!