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All Forum Posts by: Chris Blackburn

Chris Blackburn has started 37 posts and replied 172 times.

Post: Building Townhomes-Salem Oregon 94 Developed lots- build or sell?

Chris Blackburn
Pro Member
Posted
  • Developer
  • Salem, OR
  • Posts 181
  • Votes 107

We purchased a townhouse subdivision with all infrastructure completed, (roads, sewer, etc.)  There are 94 fee simple town home lots.  Originally purchase 2012 from a bank, with real estate picking up in our area over the last 2 years, it is time to sell or build.  This is a narrow lot subdivision with the units to have shared walls in groups of 3-6 doors.  (See image).  The project is in S. Salem, (a desirable part of town) and average "house" prices are in the $150-160 a foot for new construction (and rising).  With he recession, only a few subdivisions have been built but a number are in the works.  The lot prices are ranging from $75,000-95,000 for your standard 6000 sq ft-8500 sq ft lot.  NOTE- These are not standard lots- they are town house lots.   A current estimate to build the same project today would cost  about $25,000 a lot? for the hard/soft cost plus around $150,000 an acre  (RM2) land (6 acres) .  Total  ($3,250,000).    The project is across the street from one of the newest Middle schools/ Parks.  Traffic is good.   

We are analyzing the cost benefit of selling the project as to a builder vs building (with a hired builder) ourselves.  We have estimated the build cost at a total build cost (including land, legal, SDC, permits to be at $80-$85+/- a foot.   The other townhouse subdivision project built by Hayden is a few miles away and was not very successful.  (Built in 2007/8 and got caught by the downturn)

The current market for new homes in South Salem is good without a single home under $279,000 (using Redfin).  It would seem that a $225,000 or less town home in this part of town, near good schools and nicely built should sell well.   The units are smaller  (average 1300 sq ft)  at $155 a foot, it still puts the price in the $200,000+ range.  The next "house" that one could buy is starting at the $279,000.  

We really are considering a bulk sale (Although to maximize our price we may have to do a 3-5 phase take down at $45,000 (3 phase) to  $49,000  (5 phase) take down for a builder to digest.

Typically we would do a 1031 exchange even though the market is tight  (no reasonable deals on apartments), but I can usually dig up some dynamic properties with upside based on creative marketing.   Even a 5 phase sale can be used in a 1031 since the original design of this purchase was to invest and sell.  Just finding 5 properties over the next 18 months is challenging.  

The land is zoned RM2 for multifamily (which salem has a lack of (this year) and the project could be converted to a Multifamily 130+/- apartment complex at a rental rate of around $1 a foot.

As well- we could do a hybrid version of this project and reduce the lot numbers to 47 and do a modified attached house with a much larger lot and foot print but still sharing a common wall.

Let me know you can offer any "Wisdom" with a project like this.  If we could get the $2,800,000- $3,500,000 (1031)  for the book sale of the property  vs building it out for $5,000,000-$6,000,000 total profit based on $150+/- a foot.   

Love to hear from others-  Thank you for your time

Chris

I think the net profit numbers are high- units will be 1300+/- sq ft.  Number may be closer to %30   not the %34-%39 shown at the bottom

6 plex

BUILDING PERMITS   (  $97,200.00  single $16,200.00
UTILITIES $0.00 $500.00
EXCAVATION $24,000.00 $4,000.00
GRAVEL $2,500.00 $416.67
CONCRETE PUMP $1,750.00 $250.00
CONCRETE $18,000.00 $3,000.00
FOUNDATION/CONCRETE-LABOR $9,000.00 $1,500.00
CONCRETE CUTTING $750.00 $125.00
SEWER
CONCRETE FLAT WORK $12,000.00 $2,000.00
FRAMING LABOR $21,000.00 $4,947.00
ROOF TRUSSES $14,300.00 $1,831.67
BUILDING MATERIALS $70,000.00 $19,128.40
WINDOWS & SKYLIGHTS $8,500.00 $1,419.38
EXTERIOR DOORS $5,400.00 $1,050.00
ROOF COVER $16,800.00 $2,800.00
GAS FIREPLACE $6,000.00
SIDING LABOR $13,115.00 $2,185.00
GARAGE DOOR $4,914.00 $819.00
GUTTERS $2,400.00 $525.00
PLUMBING $30,000.00 $7,000.00
HEATING $30,000.00 $4,800.00
AIR CONDITIONING $0.00
NEST THERMOSTAT $325.00
GAS BBQ
GAS DRYER
ELECTRICAL $21,000.00 $4,000.00
MASONRY $3,000.00 $500.00
INSULATION $12,000.00 $2,735.00
SHEET ROCK $21,000.00 $7,100.00
SHEET ROCK GYP BOARD $750.00
INTERIOR TRIM $16,500.00 $2,500.00
TRIM LABOR $12,000.00 $2,500.00
SECURITY SYSTEM $900.00
FINISH HARDWARE $2,400.00 $350.00
UNDERLAY LABOR $1,500.00 $250.00
CABINETS $24,000.00 $4,854.40
COUNTERTOPS $11,100.00 $1,850.00
MANTLE $1,200.00
TILE $9,000.00 $1,597.80
VINYL AND FORMICA $3,000.00 $207.43
HARDWOOD FLOORS $6,600.00 $1,138.10
CARPET $13,000.00 $2,110.10
PAINTING $25,200.00 $5,359.25
WATERPROOF DECK $0.00 $0.00
KITCHEN APPLIANCES $8,400.00 $1,400.00
LIGHTS $3,000.00 $500.00
SHOWER DOOR &MIRRORS $3,000.00 $790.00
FINAL CLEANING $2,400.00 $400.00
PICK UP. GARBAGE $4,500.00 $750.00
LANDSCAPING $10,000.00 $1,500.00
DECKS $0.00 $1,000.00
MISC PICK UP LABOR $1,500.00 $250.00
JOB TOILET $720.00 $150.00
PRINTS $0.00
RENTALS $900.00 $100.00
DEMOLITION $0.00
PAVING $0.00
TREE REMOVAL/CONSULTING $0.00
SOIL EROSION
FIRE INSURANCE
LIABILITY INSURANCE $1,200.00
INTERIOR DECRO
OVERHEAD & PROFIT  (Builder)  $30,272.45 $6,033.21
CONTINGENCY 1% $6,054.49 $1,206.64
HARDCOSTS TOTAL $641,775.94 $127,904.05
LOT PRICE $72,000.00 $12,000.00
SUB TOTAL $713,775.94 $139,904.05
REAL ESTATE COMM. $72,540.00 $15,335.70
TOTAL $786,315.94 $155,239.75
SQUARE FOOT 7800 1649
SQUARE FOOT PRICE $82.28 $77.56
ESCROW FEES $6,000.00 $1,000.00
SALES PRICE @ $155 A FOOT? $1,209,000.00 $255,595.00
NET PROFIT $416,684.06 $99,355.25
PERCENT RETURN ON TOTAL 34.47% 38.87%

Post: Oregon residential commercial investors

Chris Blackburn
Pro Member
Posted
  • Developer
  • Salem, OR
  • Posts 181
  • Votes 107

Local Salem value investor involved with commercial, multifamily and subdivision investing.  Way too many projects in the works.  Like to think outside the box and solve problems with creative solutions.  Always trying to learn more as there is so much more to explore and grow.  The best deals are when everyone wins.  Treat your people, clients, customers and family well, work hard, work smart and life is definitely easier to live.