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All Forum Posts by: Christopher Freeman

Christopher Freeman has started 36 posts and replied 113 times.

Post: MBA Student Looking for Employment in Real Estate

Christopher FreemanPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Keene, NH
  • Posts 114
  • Votes 73

I do not know of any real estate companies with major corporate operations in this area, but my company, C&S Wholesale Grocer has many corporate finance opportunities, both within and outside of LDP programs. We're a $27B/year supply chain company with over a thousand employees in Keene, several hundred of which are accountants and financial analysts. It's an extremely complex business model, and there's endless opportunity to develop your financial modeling skills.

Post: FHA and Shared Housing

Christopher FreemanPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Keene, NH
  • Posts 114
  • Votes 73

I found this and it helped me understand the legal lay of the land a little better:

https://www.nmhc.org/uploadedFiles/Articles/External_Resources/Fair%20Housing%20White%20Paper%202016-03%20FINAL.pdf

Essentially, the law does not adequately address shared housing. However, there is some federal case law supporting prohibitions on children in Single Room Occupancy (SRO) rentals.

Thus, while the right to discriminate against children in shared housing is not specifically enshrined in the law, such a policy may be defensible on the basis that there is a compelling child welfare reason behind the prohibition.

Still, this doesn't leave for much comfort in communicating rejections, ignoring leads, or declining viewing requests. Lack of awareness of case law could lead a rejected party to believe they have been unfairly discriminated against. If they bring a suit, the landlord will still need have cost to defend themselves.

Post: FHA and Shared Housing

Christopher FreemanPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Keene, NH
  • Posts 114
  • Votes 73

Howdy,

I have a small portfolio of rental properties that I rent out on a "per bedroom" basis. I'm not clear on how the FHA applies to this type of rental. Because my business model means that I'm choosing roommates for other people, do I have the same right to discriminate that my tenants would if they were choosing their own roommates?

As a hypothetical: If I have one vacant bedroom in a house full of students or young professionals, can I lawfully turn away a single mother who has an infant? It is obvious that foisting a child onto a group of young, childless tenants is not reasonable, but reasonableness is not the basis of law, and I need to understand what the legal boundaries are. (Note: we sometimes accept couples, so single occupancy restriction is not an option).

Does the financial/administrative burden exemption of the FHA apply here? Obviously we do not have an issue with any particular demographic, but our administrative reality is that we need to create harmonious roommates situations in order to manage turnover and reduce requests for mediation in roommate disputes.

If the financial/administrative burden exemption does apply, where is the line?

What about the octogenarian whose home nurse visits three times a day applying to live with the group of PhD candidates who you know have a no guests policy so they can focus on their dissertations? Or the applicant with three emotional support cats when you know one of the existing tenants is allergic? Or devotees from the Church of Bacon applying to live in a house where all the other tenants are orthodox jews?

Before anyone speculates that these scenarios are unlikely, it's true that many inquiries will fizzle out when the person learns that they are demographically dissimilar to the other occupants. However, I still have to communicate with them in a compliant manner. Additionally, we've found that many older adults and/or single parents who are looking for house shares are doing so because they don't have other options. They may be willing to settle for demographically incongruous housemates in a way that might be less acceptable to said housemates.

Thanks in advance for your thoughts!

--Chris

Post: Dodd-Frank, Purchase Marketing, and Seller Financing

Christopher FreemanPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Keene, NH
  • Posts 114
  • Votes 73

Howdy all,

I'm currently working on a lead generation project to identify homeowners who may be interested in selling their homes using seller financing. The general idea is to pitch seller financing as an opportunity to turn an unwanted house into an investment (ie in a mortgage note secured by the sold property). There will be some digital marketing involved to bring traffic to a website designed to capture the leads.

I know there are regulations governing marketing for investment opportunities, but this seems like a little bit of a grey area. On the one hand, you could make the argument that you are marketing a financial product, which I think might bring it under the purview of the SEC (not 100% sure here). On the other hand, I don't see how this would be any different than posting a bandit sign and then pitching seller financing to all your call-in leads. I'm not looking to sell a reverse mortgage or home equity loan, so I'm not a lender. I'm just looking to buy real estate for rental or flip purposes.

Dodd-Frank creates certain restrictions on the ability to sell real estate using seller financing (which don't apply because in this scenario because non-consumer purchases are exempt), but how does it impact someone's ability to market themselves as a real estate buyer who makes their purchases using custom tailored seller financed offers?

I intend to hire a lawyer before actually executing on this marketing plan, but want to get some thoughts and feedback from this group to help me work expediently when it does come time to start shelling out lawyerly sums.

Best,


Chris Freeman

Co-Owner | Parabola, LLC


Post: California Rent Control

Christopher FreemanPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Keene, NH
  • Posts 114
  • Votes 73
Originally posted by @Account Closed:

I appreciate the help and I am bummed out. All the other landlords increased the rents so fast I didn't know what was going on. I have 4 apartment buildings in Los Angeles, Torrance, Gardena and Long Beach. I am sort of lucky because I raised the rents in two of the buildings and the increase took effect on March 1, 2019. So, I do not have to roll back those rents and I will definitely raise the rents again this March. I always give my tenants a 90 to 120 day rent increase notice.

Today, believe it or not, before I heard about the new law, I printed rent increases for 35 units and increased all the rents $200. A few minutes ago, I just re-printed the notices and had to decrease the rent increase to only $100.

I've always been generous to my tenants and kept the rents low. If I had increased my rents to what everyone else is charging I would be netting about $150k more every year and that is $1.5 million every 10 years. Bad landlord!!! But, I have  happy tenants if that is worth all the work and frustration.

You could give the required notice now to raise rents to market. You'll have to revert later, but you may turn some apartments in the process and be able to move forward at market rate.

Sucks for the tenant. Hopefully the ones adversely affected are the ones that voted for it.

Post: Southern Vermont/New Hampshire Meetup Interest??

Christopher FreemanPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Keene, NH
  • Posts 114
  • Votes 73

Count me in! If looking for a venue in Keene, may I recommend Machina Kitchen and ArtBar? They have a fantastic beverage selection and inspired small and medium plate dining, all served up in a chic lounge-like atmosphere. It's a popular spot for local movers and shakers. The landlord for that building is local and might also be interested in attending.

Post: Fix & Flip Completed, keep it rolling!

Christopher FreemanPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Keene, NH
  • Posts 114
  • Votes 73

@Ryan Saulle, looks awesome! Would you be willing to share a little information about how you financed the project and whether you did the work yourself or hired it out?

Post: 100% equity in owner occupied needing funding

Christopher FreemanPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Keene, NH
  • Posts 114
  • Votes 73

5 percent maintenance seems low. Granted, you'll be maintaining a freshly remodeled property, but you still need capex reserves on top of day-to-day maintenance.

Post: Would you "overpay" to obtain seller financing?

Christopher FreemanPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Keene, NH
  • Posts 114
  • Votes 73
Originally posted by @Pat L.:

When I started investing seller financing was all I could get. I'd agree to 10% down but squeeze the price down then offer a much higher rate of return. Most jumped at that & even though there was usually a balloon I always made sure there was no pre-payment penalty. This was because most required a lot of rehab to get them to appraise high enough for conv. financing months later. Invariably I'd get the required appraisal & pay off the loan well before the balloon was due or before I was swamped with high interest payments. 

I continued this for many years, especially if I wanted the deal & was viable. BUT I'd still throw out the higher % teaser rate than going higher in price because when they see the return after 5 years they appreciate that they are going to get the price via expected cumulative interest payments. Then once the rehab is done & the property is livable/flippable I'd simply payoff the loan cash then either kept it or flipped it CFD.

Strangely enough the majority were simply glad to get the cash earlier than wait the compounding profitable 5-10 years..

Were you upfront during the negotiations process about the possibility that you would cash them out early? I definitely intend to market based on a combination of cumulative returns and/or NPV, but I have mixed feelings about lubricating the deal with an offer of solid fixed income and then cashing them out at the earliest opportunity.

I do, however, think that an early pay-off is an opportunity for further negotiation in the form of offering to buy the note from the seller at a discount.

Post: Would you "overpay" to obtain seller financing?

Christopher FreemanPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Keene, NH
  • Posts 114
  • Votes 73
Originally posted by @Account Closed:

Howdy All,

I've recently been focusing on seller financing models and the determination of a maximum allowable offer. My commercial lender will provide up to 75% LTV and will allow the seller to carry back the difference, thus eliminating the need for a down payment.

With the help of these forums, I built a model that sensitivity tests MAO as function of capital structure, DSCR constraints, and cash flow per door thresholds. One drawback of the model is that inexpensive credit and/or long amortizations may result in a proposed MAO that is substantially higher than fair market value. That is, the calculator will determine that you can "overpay" and still hit key cash flow metrics. However, in doing, so it places the asset underwater from a liquidity perspective.

Fixing this is easy: just add a price not to exceed based on a cap rate valuation, CMA, or other manual input.

My question for the group is: Would you be willing to pay a purchase premium in order to induce seller financing? On the one hand, you may close with little/no/negative equity if you pay a premium, which adversely affects liquidity. On the other hand, you may generate substantially higher deal volume. As long as you have staying power through a healthy DSCR and conservative reserves and allowances, it would seem that the willingness to hold the asset for a potentially long period of time becomes a primary consideration.

Looking forward to hearing people's thoughts on this.

 Your comment: "My commercial lender will provide up to 75% LTV and will allow the seller to carry back the difference, thus eliminating the need for a down payment."

Your lender will require an appraisal and will lend the LESSER of the Appraisal or the Contract Agreement. 

So, for instance, your agreement with the seller is for $250,000 and your 25% carry back is $62,500 and your lender will lend you 75% or $187,500 based on the preliminary paperwork. This is what is agreed to but the appraisal hasn't been done yet.

Next, your lender will have an appraisal done but say the value comes in at $200,000 not the $250,000 you've agreed to. Remember, the appraisal is the basis of the loan to a commercial lender, not your contract price. The lender will drop the amount they will lend to 75% of the appraised value of $200,000 or to $150,000 and you have to make up the difference of the sales prices of $250,000. So, $100,000. But that now becomes a 40% carry back, with the lender now providing 60% of the funding of the original $250,000 if in fact the lender will allow you to over encumber the property which most won't.

Also, Balloons and Adjustable Rates destroy the value of owner financing in most cases.

Great point on appraisal. In our particular scenario, there is fortunately no balloon or adjustable rate.