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All Forum Posts by: Chris Torbert

Chris Torbert has started 3 posts and replied 21 times.

Post: private/interest only loan vs bank loan

Chris TorbertPosted
  • Real Estate Agent & Investor
  • Celina, TX
  • Posts 21
  • Votes 8

@Jeff Lezark do you charge points?  Also, are you able to lend in Texas?

Post: Facebook Group Page for Each MFR

Chris TorbertPosted
  • Real Estate Agent & Investor
  • Celina, TX
  • Posts 21
  • Votes 8

@Zach F.

I too have thought about doing this.  For the reasons you mentioned above...but also to use as a tool for them to submit maintenance requests (directly to the admin), and announce upcoming vacancies.  My thought is to announce the listings, offering a referral bonus for anyone who refers a selected tenant.  Again, my thought is to encourage good referrals and have people live near their friends/family in hopes to reduce future vacancies.  I'm in the $700-800/mo price range per unit to add some context.  

I'm using Cozy for the other components of property management, but thought I could leverage FB for some of the things Cozy doesn't do.

Just curious if you moved forward with this idea and how it has played out.  Also any other feedback from other investors is perfectly welcome as well!

Thanks,

-CT

Post: Fort worth Rental investment

Chris TorbertPosted
  • Real Estate Agent & Investor
  • Celina, TX
  • Posts 21
  • Votes 8

@Richard D.

I'm negotiating a deal right now in area 5.  It's a 16-unit property and I'm putting together a presentation for a business partner.  What cap rates are you seeing in area 5 right now?  Much appreciated!!

Post: Seller Carry-Back

Chris TorbertPosted
  • Real Estate Agent & Investor
  • Celina, TX
  • Posts 21
  • Votes 8

@Brian Gibbons 

Can you elaborate a bit on your point above?  I've got a situation right now where I have the opportunity to purchase a $1,000,000 commercial property that would be a VERY profitable deal for me.  I have a local lender who will lend up to 80% @ 6% on this deal.  I don't have the $200k for a down payment, so I'm looking at either bringing in a partner or seeing if there's a way I can arrange it to where the seller carries a second to cover the down payment.  

Any thoughts or ideas?  Much appreciated...

Thanks,

Chris

Post: My First Deal...finally!

Chris TorbertPosted
  • Real Estate Agent & Investor
  • Celina, TX
  • Posts 21
  • Votes 8

Thanks @Brett Snodgrass and @Paul F. 

I will definitely circle back once the whole plan has been executed and give an update.

Post: My First Deal...finally!

Chris TorbertPosted
  • Real Estate Agent & Investor
  • Celina, TX
  • Posts 21
  • Votes 8

Hey BP,

I know we have ALOT of "I'm a new investor" posts, talking about strategies and discussing various topics.  I posted that exact type of post about 6 months ago.  However, you don't see near as many follow up posts from those individuals, talking about their first deal experiences and successes.  So, I thought it would be interesting and encouraging to other newbies out there to share a bit about my first deal!  This isn't to brag, or pat myself on the back, but to encourage others who are trying to get started and feel like they are just beating their heads into the wall and getting nowhere.

After MANY long nights (6 months worth) looking for and analyzing properties, and after looking and attempting many different strategies, I found a little duplex in the DFW area that looked appealing.  The numbers worked well enough for me to pursue it.  I offered sight unseen, because there were several other people interested, and I wanted to lock it up.  I offered list price, and figured that I would find some things during my option period/due diligence that I could use to get the price down.  I did just that...I got the sale price from $120k (list price) down to $107k during the option period, due to some legitimate work that needed to be done to the exterior of the property, and some foundation concern that may or may not need fixing. 

So, I have the property under contract for $107k now!  However, the lender I was working with has a program that will finance the repairs needed.  In this case, we were going to finance the replacement of the siding, new garage doors, and the foundation work.  However, due to the program, we had to extend the closing date by 30 days.  I had to offer an additional $2,500 in order to get the seller to agree to extend closing.  So now i'm in it for $109,500.  Then came appraisal time, long story short & with the lender financing the repairs, the appraisal took a REALLY long time, and ultimately it appraised about $7k short of what I needed it to.  So, now I was faced with a decision:  Do I blow my entire cash reserves to make up the difference in cash to close?  Do I let the deal go?  Or, do I find a partner.

From the get go, my father had been wanting to partner on the deal with me, but I kept telling him "no, I don't want to give up half of the monthly cashflow and half of the long term profit".  Well, I decided it might not be such a bad idea to have a partner after all, so obviously I called good ole dad and asked if he was still interested.  Within 5 min, I described the numbers to him and he was all in.  We discussed the partnership terms and came to an agreement.  We were going to be 50/50 partners and pay cash for it.

In order to bring additional value to the partnership, I forfeited my $3,500 commission and negotiated a bit more and the new all cash price was $104k. Our strategy going into this was to put $10-15k into the property, raise monthly rents by $100, then refinance to pull most all of our cash out. I never intended to use the BRRRR strategy on this, but we just kind of stumbled into it. So, the details of the deal are below:

Purchase price:          $104,000

Repairs:                      $10,000

Total cost:                   $114,000

ARV: $140,000

Refi Loan Amount:      $100,500

Cash Invested:            $13,500

Monthly Cash Flow:    $600

CoC ROI: 53%

The best thing about this is, we have a solid deal, and we will be able to pull nearly all of our money out and go do it again. Furthermore, when you factor in that you have to let the property "season" for 6 months, so the lender will allow the refi based on the new appraised amount, we are going to be pocketing $6,000 of total cashflow between now and then. We are actually going to use all of that toward repairs, so all total we are only going to have $7,500 of our own cash invested, thus boosting our CoC ROI up to 96%!

Still a lot of work to go between now and then, but I wanted to share a little about my story. I have pursued everything from tax deeds, to foreclosures, to wholesaling, to flipping, to SFR rentals, and eventually stumbled into a duplex. I never imagined utilizing the BRRRR strategy and being able to do it all again in 6 months, but again, obstacles and circumstances kept forcing me to look at and research alternative options and ultimately find one that works. I never wanted to introduce a partner because I wanted to be in control and keep all the profits to myself, but ultimately a partner was a blessing in disguise. There is ALOT of peace of mind that comes with having a great partner to share the risk and stress with. So, to all the newbies out there, keep your head up and don't get discouraged. Best of luck everyone!

-Chris Torbert

Post: Building a Duplex

Chris TorbertPosted
  • Real Estate Agent & Investor
  • Celina, TX
  • Posts 21
  • Votes 8

@Jarod Hall I'm interested in hearing the prep work & zoning factors involved.  I am close to getting a property under contract that has an adjacent vacant lot that will convey with the purchase.  The property is a great deal on it's own, but I've thought about building a duplex (or quad) on the vacant lot to get additional value out of the property.  I just don't know enough about the approval process, zoning, or anything else that would be a factor in that.  Any thoughts or pointers?

Thanks,

Chris

Post: Multifamily Investor looking to build teams in multiple markets

Chris TorbertPosted
  • Real Estate Agent & Investor
  • Celina, TX
  • Posts 21
  • Votes 8

Hi @Ned Young,

Welcome and I have very similar interests.  I'm exclusively looking at MF right now, from small to medium.  I'm in DFW and would love to sync up to see if there's a way we can combine our efforts.  

Thanks,

Chris

Post: Rental property in Abilene TX

Chris TorbertPosted
  • Real Estate Agent & Investor
  • Celina, TX
  • Posts 21
  • Votes 8

Hi folks...I am currently looking at a small multifamily property in Abiline.  I'm trying to accurately value the property, but am having trouble finding a good cap rate to use in my equation.  I'm making a pitch to a private lender and want to be able to show what it's actually worth.  I've seen cap rates from 5-15% in Abilene, but trying to find out what's typical for a 3-5 unit property.  Any thoughts or feedback is MUCH appreciated.  Thanks!

Post: Partnership Help

Chris TorbertPosted
  • Real Estate Agent & Investor
  • Celina, TX
  • Posts 21
  • Votes 8

@Steven Hamilton II @Brian Eastman @Mark Nolan @Daniel Dietz Thank you all very much for your responses!  At this point, I only have enough money for a 10% down payment and a little reserves, so I'm going to attempt to get a 60% non-recourse loan, and see if the seller will finance the last 30%.  Any gotchas or thinks to keep in mind with that route?  Thanks again!

Chris