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All Forum Posts by: Chris Thomas

Chris Thomas has started 6 posts and replied 65 times.

Post: Biden Eviction Moratorium

Chris ThomasPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Central Kentucky
  • Posts 67
  • Votes 43

This is not politically one sided, nor would it be a bad thing if it were evenly distributed. Meaning, if there’s a moratorium on rent, there has to be a moratorium on taxes, mortgages, insurance, etc which we all know will never happen. The best solution here would be, if this

policy is going to exist, to have a “unemployment” like program where landlords show their lost rents and those rents are compensated for out of a fund created for the good of the people. I’ve been out of the market for a few years waiting to jump back in. But to be honest this singular issue is what keeps me out for now.

Post: Ready to pull trigger on first deal- would appreciate feedback

Chris ThomasPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Central Kentucky
  • Posts 67
  • Votes 43

I don't like this one bit. The return is weak compared to other modes of investment. Call me crazy but the real money seems to be on the property development side of things right now. May not last though...

Post: How much time do you spend on BP????

Chris ThomasPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Central Kentucky
  • Posts 67
  • Votes 43

Not near enough.

Post: Cashflow or Appreciation

Chris ThomasPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Central Kentucky
  • Posts 67
  • Votes 43
Originally posted by @Todd Rasmussen:

@Chris Thomas

Instead of "should I invest in cash flow" or "should I invest in appreciation", you should set your mentality to how do I make money in either situation?

In this case, with 50% expenses and a mortgage with 20% down, you should be able to get about a 20% cash on cash return which is more than anyone is getting from natural appreciation anywhere. As far as cash flow gold mines, it's okay but not great. If this is as rural as what I'm picturing, I'm guessing you should frame the deal where your cash on cash is more like 40%. Make sure you have a property manager than can manage these or you plan on self managing. The opportunity cost of self managing will increase as your portfolio grows, so be aware of that.

Now the question you actually asked. Yes, I would hold something that never appreciated a dollar in value with adequate cash on cash return. You could make a hundred thousand dollars over the life of this investment and get to show a loss at the time of sale. I'd rather be taxed at ordinary income levels starting right now than at capital gains once I actually realized the result of my investment anyways.

Excellent points.... so a few things.....

My father in law owns around 25 SFH in that area and was going to buy these but is willing to let me have them if id like.

We live 4hrs away but he already has a contractor he uses to work on all of his so we are good there. And frankly, my inlaws know just about everyone in the area and can give an thumbs up or down on most properties there.

I cannot break everything down per home at the moment because we are in the deals infancy and they are being sold as a group, so as far as individual prices I dont have them yet.

This deal will happen through a friend of a friend of a..... so it is really all about whenever I'm ready to buy.

I was nervous about the potential loss at the end but considering they would potentially pay for themselves in less than 10yrs it may just be a no brainer.......

Post: Cashflow or Appreciation

Chris ThomasPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Central Kentucky
  • Posts 67
  • Votes 43
Originally posted by @Joe Villeneuve:

What does 550-600 equal in cash flow?

Mort, tax, ins should be around 800 or so. Rents are 2200. So gross is 1400. They need work, but because of the area they are in, the amount I would logically put in or worry about updating is minimal. Again, they'd be HUD homes most likely.

Post: Where are you parking your cash right now??

Chris ThomasPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Central Kentucky
  • Posts 67
  • Votes 43

Where are you putting your extra cash??? 

With the possibility of extra stimulus money flowing soon, increasing the amount of random cash floating around and tanking its value, where are you putting your money? Obviously most people here will say "property!!", and I get that. But with prices being sooooo high in many places right now, thats not even a great move for everyone. SO, what else do you buy? Collectables, securities, bonds, PM, etc??

Post: Cashflow or Appreciation

Chris ThomasPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Central Kentucky
  • Posts 67
  • Votes 43

The topic has been discussed a million times in a million different ways but I have an opportunity to purchase 4 small 3bdrm homes for around 115k. They are in a economically depressed rural location and will be HUD properties. I believe current rent on them to be 550 and can prob be pushed to 600 each. My only issue with the deal is knowing that, most likely, they will never appreciate. I will simply have to hold them until paid off and then leave them as 4 little piggie banks. This will be the first purchase for my new LLC.. What are the expert's thoughts?

Post: I'm a new real estate investor in Lexington, KY

Chris ThomasPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Central Kentucky
  • Posts 67
  • Votes 43

Hey @Peter Stevenson, great to have you in the area! I'm on and off this site a bit but would love to connect any time. Have a great one guys.

Post: Anybody Investing in Louisville ky?

Chris ThomasPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Central Kentucky
  • Posts 67
  • Votes 43

Certain areas in and around Louisville are currently very inflated but as long as you're looking in to B&C class properties in working class areas I think you'd be okay. There has been a bit of growth in new A class property going up recently (think Upton @ Oxmoor) but those aren't what we are dealing with here. And I am in a similar boat. My town outside of Louisville is for flippers and builders only as you won't make a nickel with rentals esp single family. The only possibility is building multi-family as cheaply as possible....

Post: Newbie investor - local market too expensive...

Chris ThomasPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Central Kentucky
  • Posts 67
  • Votes 43

I have had a property at distance, and so long as you have a solid property management company, you should be fine. And don't skimp out, they are the ones who will make this experience great or awful.