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All Forum Posts by: Chris Pike

Chris Pike has started 5 posts and replied 33 times.

Post: Need Lender in Phoenix: one tenant already in place

Chris PikePosted
  • Investor
  • Phoenix, AZ
  • Posts 36
  • Votes 25

@Briana W. just sent you a message. I may be able to help you out!

Post: Cash flowing properties in Phoenix

Chris PikePosted
  • Investor
  • Phoenix, AZ
  • Posts 36
  • Votes 25

@Kyle Benham

What part of town did you purchase your 4 plex?

We are having success with small multifamily doing the same thing. The only way deals make sense is targeting multifamily with depressed rents and deferred maintenance. Then go in and make improvements and increase rents. But we are seeing nice cash flow and great forced appreciation with high demand for cash flowing small multifamily in the area right now.

If the units are in the right location, and have the correct set up we use them as short term rentals and are crushing it on those as well.

Nice work! Congrats on your deal.

Post: P&I with F.H.A. Brand new at analyzing deals

Chris PikePosted
  • Investor
  • Phoenix, AZ
  • Posts 36
  • Votes 25

@Colton Wiggs

Inventory of small multifamily in Phoenix metro is limited right now. I have found that with 2-4 units in order to get a deal to make a solid return, especially purchasing with FHA loan, you have to find a property with deferred maintenance or poor management, or a combination of both. Look for a property that has rents well below market value and find ways to add value and boost rents.

Most of what you find in the Phoenix market today will not be a great deal with it’s current rental rates.

I would be more than happy to share some examples of small multifamily deals that I have been making work. If you are interested just send me a message.

@Wes Blackwell thank you for a great post! This is a very comprehensive overview of the short-term rental market here in the Phoenix metro. I also see a ton of people being lured in by the high returns of the STR strategy here, and many of them are not taking all of these factors into consideration when they need to be. At least if they plan on using this investment strategy for the long term.

1. I have 3 short term rentals here in Phoenix.

2. I am obviously a little bias, but I feel some of the regulations that are being considered and already imposed in other cities is too much.

It is very easy for people to push horror stories and say that short term tenants are going to disrupt the neighborhood with noise, traffic, parties and god forbid smoking weed. Although, the same thing could very easily happen with a long-term tenant, or even a neighboring property owner. I have experienced this personally on multiple occasions. Growing up I lived in a very safe middle-class neighborhood in Billings, MT. My neighbors across the street (who owned their property) had an older son who sold drugs from their home. Heavy flow of traffic, cops regularly coming to the property, and all of the other complaints people have about short-term tenants applied. More recently, I lived in a condo here in Downtown Phoenix in a small tight nit community of residents where the HOA banned short term rentals. While living at the property, my neighbor (who owned the property) got a new boyfriend who loved to party. At least 3 times a week they would be blasting music until 4 in the morning or even later. We approached them multiple time asking them to keep quiet and it still kept happening.

The worst part about these situations is at the end of the week these people didn't leave to return to their home. This was their home, and we were stuck dealing with them as long as we lived there or either of us decided to move. In both of these situations I would have gladly replaced my neighbor with a short-term rental knowing that this stuff would happen occasionally, but most likely not nearly as frequently as we already had to deal with them. 95% of our guests are respectful and we never hear any complaints about them from neighbors. This may be different in areas that are more conducive to parties, such as Old Town Scottsdale. Although, from our experience we have very rarely had the nightmare guest that is described in all of these claims.

I also feel that it is easy for people to demonize "large investment groups" that are coming in and destroying their neighborhoods. From what I have seen locally most of our competition in the short-term rental space is individuals with a few properties being ran as short-term rentals like ourselves, or individual owners with only one property. In all reality, it seems like these people are trying to pool small investors, including many here on BP, with large "evil" corporations. There are a couple big players such as Wander Jaunt and Sonder. Although, Sonder seems to stick to partnering with larger apartment complexes in listing a few of their units. Wander Jaunt is a little more across the board with their rentals.

Also, many property owners I see doing short-term rentals are renovating their properties substantially before listing, us included. Many of our neighbors are very happy to see improvements being made to dilapidated properties next door, bringing up the value of their neighborhood.

I can understand and see many points being made against short term rentals. Although, I feel that some of the claims are sometimes a stretch and could easily be flipped to a bad long-term tenant or property owner.

This may be a little more than what you wanted to hear, although this is my two cents on the situation.

3. My advice to investors looking into this strategy is to look into all aspects that you outlined in your post. Pretty simple. Do not buy a property in an HOA as they can easily shut you down. Make sure any property you purchase makes sense as a long term-rental as well so if any future regulation comes down on AirBnBs you have a back-up strategy where you don't have to sell in a potentially down market. Also, try to find a property where you can add value so when you do end up selling (forced or by choice) you have additional margin.

@Justin Spruell I have been having luck with value add small multifamily deals in gentrifying neighborhoods in Downtown Phoenix. Feel free to DM me if there is any way my experience could be of value to you. Good luck on the sale of your home in WA!

Post: Lompoc, CA Investing

Chris PikePosted
  • Investor
  • Phoenix, AZ
  • Posts 36
  • Votes 25

@Kory Knapp I have been having luck with value add small multifamily in Downtown Phoenix. DM me if you would like to discuss further. Congrats on the purchase in Mesa!

Post: Time to buy a house in Phoenix, A?

Chris PikePosted
  • Investor
  • Phoenix, AZ
  • Posts 36
  • Votes 25

@Surya Poudel it depends on your goals. We have been on an upswing in the market for quite some time now. If you want to buy now I feel that it is best to buy a fixer. Something that you can force appreciation through renovations, that way if the market does change you have a slight buffer. If you want to buy something move in ready, just make sure you plan on holding it for a long time. Either living in it yourself for a long time, or making sure the rental numbers make sense. As you do not want to buy something at the top of the market cycle that is top dollar for the neighborhood and then be in a situation where you have to sell a few years later when values are lower. I am sure you will hear a variety of other answers. Although that is my two cents.

Post: Arizona Small Multi-Family

Chris PikePosted
  • Investor
  • Phoenix, AZ
  • Posts 36
  • Votes 25

@Jordan Mantel I am having luck focusing on small value add multifamily in Downtown Phoenix. Everyone on this thread is correct, deals on the MLS are few and far between these days. Although, I have been finding off market deals that make sense. I have found success in hitting the 1% rule, although you have to find a distressed property with below market rents and boost rents with physical improvements to hit these numbers. They do not hit the 1% rule at time of acquisition. I also recently remodeled a 1940s duplex in Downtown and turned both units to AirBnBs that are absolutely crushing it! In Downtown you have to be careful, as you are dealing with historic buildings and some of the rehabs get expensive fast. Although, the market can be very lucrative with the right strategy. DM me and we can talk more!

Post: Fair price per foot to remodel or add square footage in Phoenix

Chris PikePosted
  • Investor
  • Phoenix, AZ
  • Posts 36
  • Votes 25

It doesn’t sound too unrealistic for historic homes in Downtown/Central Phoenix if you are bringing on a GC. $50/sq.ft. is very low for a full remodel on these historic homes unless you are able to sub out all the work yourself. Basic guideline I have received from multiple contractors who do a lot of historic remodels is $65-$100/sq.ft. for remodel costs depending on scope and how high end of finishes you would like. This is due to the fact you are practically rebuilding the house since you will only be keeping basically foundation and framing.

Although, I have heard of additions getting done in the area for closer to $125/sq.ft.

I just finished a a 1,500 sq.ft. 1940 duplex in downtown that was a mess. Needed new roof, plumbing (drain lines and water lines), full rewire, new heat pump, stucco repairs/paint, drywall repairs and retexturing throughout, windows, reworked floor plan, added bathroom, new patios, etc.  Basically brand new property except for foundation and exterior framing and majority of interior framing. This ran us just under $150k. The remodel was very nice compared to most fix and flips I see in Downtown.

Not saying you couldn’t get it done for cheaper. Although for quality work that you are hiring a GC for with how much needs to be done on these historic remodels gets more expensive than you might think.

Post: Leasing a Property or Apartment for AirBnB

Chris PikePosted
  • Investor
  • Phoenix, AZ
  • Posts 36
  • Votes 25
@Chris Pike *will not be changing any time soon*