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All Forum Posts by: Chris Allen

Chris Allen has started 42 posts and replied 298 times.

Post: Are travel nurse freezes a growing trend?

Chris Allen
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  • Temple, TX
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Quote from @Chris Allen:
Quote from @Nicole Heasley Beitenman:

I have a one-bedroom house I was planning on putting on Furnished Finder after the holidays. At a recent REI meetup, a fellow investor and ER doctor said his company is putting a freeze on travel nurses because of the cost. We were hoping to turn our other current rental and any future rentals into mid-term housing, but his feedback gave us pause. Are these kinds of freezes a growing trend in the healthcare industry?


 Everyone here has had great input and are pretty much hitting the nail on the head. I am a travel nurse as well, so from my experience, hospitals are still short staffed and in desperate need of nurses, but are trying options other than travel nurses (agency nurses). For example, many hospitals are doing "seasonal" contracts internally. So instead of nurses working for an agency, they apply directly with the hospital and are considered seasonal staff (I am working a job like this now). This allows hospitals to cut out the middle man, save money, while still paying nurses competitive travel rates. So even if hospitals put a "freeze" to hiring travel nurses, chances are that if the hospital is still in need of workers, there is still going to be nurses looking for furnished housing to fill those needs. 


 Something else to note, rates have gone down a TON for travel nurses. During the height of COVID, many travel nurses were able to get contracts paying $5-10k/week! Now rates have gone down to pre-pandemic $1.5-4k/wk (depending on location). So with that being said, many nurses are unable to afford what some landlords were charging to rent a place so having competitive/reasonable pricing is more important now. 

Just as a bonus, I did a poll on one of the travel nurse websites I am apart of and a majority of nurses that voted said they would prefer to rent a private 1-2 bedroom property. 

Post: What ever happened to Matt Onofrio? NNN Investing

Chris Allen
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  • Temple, TX
  • Posts 307
  • Votes 212
Quote from @Brett Oftedahl:
Quote from @Joel Owens:

I get asked many times about this guy from various people. I don't know him or what his business model is. Many years ago Bigger Pockets was not interested in micro subjects like NNN. Said it was too nichy and focused more on larger asset classes with big scale investor interest.

Bigger Pockets was all of a sudden going to have him write a book on NNN in the last year or so after telling me not interested in a NNN book. For various reasons (have no clue what they were) they had a parting of ways and the book was not written. They then approached me to write a book but I had already completed a book on my own this year for NNN.

So at some point someone probably will write a book on this site for NNN. I have been in commercial real estate about 20 years now and a specialist in NNN. Bigger Pockets is growing so fast now with so many employees that many of them do not know the old timers on here when Josh was just running the site. I think Matt was newer to this site and had some connection with Davd and Brandon from that Gobundance thing but not sure. I do not keep track of all of that.

As to using debt if someone for instance was buying leasehold instead of fee simple to get higher cap rate spreads and high leverage deals those are time bombs with a short window to get out of because if tenant goes out you still have to pay ground rent and other costs tenant used to pay in addition to base rent. Again when people ask me unless I looked at every aspect of his business model with 100% transparency I could not give any opinion of the structure or it's long term viability.

I don't want to be anyone's guru or any of that crap. I do 2 things and that is it. I have clients buy stabilized NNN STNL or MTNL deals and I am the broker helping them through the process. I also syndicate value add NNN deals for stabilization and higher equity upside potential when too much of my own cash is out on deals I am doing.

Doing those 2 things only my net worth goes up on average 7 to 8 figures more a year. I like slow and steady wins the race and vanilla type investing. When you get into waterfalls and all these exotic type structures 2 things can happen.

1. People can try and hide things the more complex and hard to understand they are.

2. More things can go wrong even IF the practice is legitimate due to all the moving parts to make it work.

I used to do land assemblage for commercial developers and you had very long timelines and 100 steps to make the project work on those big projects ( hundreds of k of sq ft ) and if a few steps fell out years of work you were paid nothing. That is why I like stabilized existing properties with leases it closes in 2 to 3 months and I get paid for my efforts and the buyer knows what they are getting because it's there already. 

Again I know nothing about his business positive or negative. If you have your hard earned dollars in you hand to invest and you can't get the hard questions answered with transparency then you might want to pause and research further.

I have a lot of doctor clients and most make 750k to over 1 million a year and are very private. They do not go on a bunch of podcasts talking about the medical field.

I still enjoy Bigger Pockets just not on here as much as I stay very busy with my business. 


Looks like your instincts were correct. He was in the local news today as he was indicted on fraud charges in federal court. Innocent until proven guilty of course, but it doesn’t look good.  


 Wow, that is really sad to hear. I really looked up to him as I am a nurse and was getting ready to apply to CRNA school when I heard his BP podcast. Seemed like a really good guy from what I had saw of him. Didn't follow him close enough to hear him on other podcast continuing to use the "Anesthesiologist" language for his job title. 

Post: Residential Assisted Living Guidance, networking

Chris Allen
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  • Temple, TX
  • Posts 307
  • Votes 212
Quote from @Rich Emery:

Hello All,

BP #671 got me super inspired to get into residential assisted living (RAL).  I'm a registered nurse that has a handful of rental properties on the side currently.   I've been actively seeking for ways to dive deeper into real estate while utilizing my healthcare/business background.  This seems like the perfect fit for me.  I paid for the RALAcademy online course - It was great and well worth the time and money for me.   After taking this course and reading other posts about RAL on BP forums, I feel very well equipped for this.

I'm currently feeling a bit stuck at this point in terms of  getting the business plan together, getting property approved, finding tenants, etc etc.  


RALAcademy does have options to take the next steps.  It seems like it could really streamlines the process.  That's great...but the cost is quite high...like high enough to drain me of most of my liquid cash.  At this point, I don't know if that would be a wise move for me.  Again, great course, I highly recommend - just getting pretty spendy if I were to purchase the next step with their company.

I wanted to see if there's anybody out there that's willing to network or connect me with potential financiers for undertaking RAL projects?

I'm in a unique spot as I'm very flexible to make moves (single, no wife/kids at the moment).  I've been a travel ICU RN and am kind of home-less (figuratively).  Family in the Midwest, Santa Fe/Albuquerque is current location.  Would prefer to start this endeavor in the Southwest, but I am fairly open minded at this point.

Any and all suggestions are welcome.  


 Hi there, I am a nurse as well and at one point looked very heavily in starting a RAL. Here are a few suggestions that I can think of. 

- There are several FB groups for RAL operators, even groups with RAL's for sale. So you could go a Turn Key Route, or at least just network on FB. 

- Maybe reach out to any RAL's in your area, or if there is a private FB group for the academy, just network on there. 

- Have you considered looking for a RAL who is already up and running, and seeing if they are interested in renting a property from you if you can find one?

- I know Texas has a pretty laxed limit on how many residents you can have. I believe 16?

Post: What ever happened to Matt Onofrio? NNN Investing

Chris Allen
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  • Temple, TX
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Quote from @Ronald Rohde:
Quote from @Chris Allen:
Quote from @Ronald Rohde:

His website sounds a lot like a guru. Nurse portrayed as a anesthesiologist

Leverage is a powerful tool.


 He is a CRNA (Certified Registered Nurse Anesthetist). I don't believe he has portrayed to be an anesthesiologist, but he absolutely is an anesthesia provider. While he did not go to medical school, he would have gotten his doctorate in nurse anesthesia (unless he got in before they changed the education requirements from a masters). 


I'm not familiar with CRNA, does he make $400k+ a year? Is he focusing on that instead of CRE?

Not quite that high, but depending where you live, CRNA's can easily make $200k+/yr. And honestly I'm not sure what he is doing, I can't imagine he is focusing on that instead of the Real Estate. 

Post: What ever happened to Matt Onofrio? NNN Investing

Chris Allen
Posted
  • Temple, TX
  • Posts 307
  • Votes 212
Quote from @Ronald Rohde:

His website sounds a lot like a guru. Nurse portrayed as a anesthesiologist

Leverage is a powerful tool.


 He is a CRNA (Certified Registered Nurse Anesthetist). I don't believe he has portrayed to be an anesthesiologist, but he absolutely is an anesthesia provider. While he did not go to medical school, he would have gotten his doctorate in nurse anesthesia (unless he got in before they changed the education requirements from a masters). 

Post: Is it a good idea to mix strategies (STR/LTR) in a triplex?

Chris Allen
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  • Temple, TX
  • Posts 307
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Quote from @Brian Childres:

We are building a triplex and wanting to try either STR or MTR in one unit and LTR in the other two. Just curious if the LTR tenants would be ok with the movement of STR/MTR going on next door. We currently have 17 LTR doors and did a STR a few years back and enjoyed the experience. Thanks for the advice BP!


Hi there, I am in the process of converting the half of my duplex here in Killeen, TX I just moved out of into an STR/MTR while I rent the other out as an LTR. If the other half goes well I will convert both. But I recommend just being honest with your tenants about that one being an STR and let them know that you will not tolerate any nonsense at the property by STR guest and for them to let you know of any concerns. It is actually great in my opinion because it gives you constant eyes at the property. At the end of the day your tenants shouldn't really tell you what to do with your property, and if there are issues with STR guest, you just convert it back to all LTR.

Also, I grew up in Tyler and still visit family in Kilgore often. Would love to connect. 

Post: Are travel nurse freezes a growing trend?

Chris Allen
Posted
  • Temple, TX
  • Posts 307
  • Votes 212
Quote from @Nicole Heasley Beitenman:

I have a one-bedroom house I was planning on putting on Furnished Finder after the holidays. At a recent REI meetup, a fellow investor and ER doctor said his company is putting a freeze on travel nurses because of the cost. We were hoping to turn our other current rental and any future rentals into mid-term housing, but his feedback gave us pause. Are these kinds of freezes a growing trend in the healthcare industry?


 Everyone here has had great input and are pretty much hitting the nail on the head. I am a travel nurse as well, so from my experience, hospitals are still short staffed and in desperate need of nurses, but are trying options other than travel nurses (agency nurses). For example, many hospitals are doing "seasonal" contracts internally. So instead of nurses working for an agency, they apply directly with the hospital and are considered seasonal staff (I am working a job like this now). This allows hospitals to cut out the middle man, save money, while still paying nurses competitive travel rates. So even if hospitals put a "freeze" to hiring travel nurses, chances are that if the hospital is still in need of workers, there is still going to be nurses looking for furnished housing to fill those needs. 

Post: HELP, trying to get a second investment property...

Chris Allen
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  • Temple, TX
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Quote from @Veronica Veiga:

Hiii, I currently own a duplex that I am house hacking, I have had the property for two years now, its an FHA loan at 2.7% therefore refinancing is not an option at this time. Bought my home for 640K worth 810K now, recently had it appraised.

I am looking to buy my next investment property, a fourplex to be more specific. I am looking at either a Conventional loan vs a DSCR loan, don't know if there are other loans I should be considering? I recently had a lender tell me that I would not qualify for a conventional loan due to DOI ratio has to be at 45% and currently I have no debt except for my current home. He stated that I would have to pay 300K to my current home to qualify, which I don't understand why that is. I am a travel nurse and I make good money but have only been doing it for a little over one year and half, but I also have a per diem job, I have been working for that hospital for 4 years now.

Also I would need 20-25% down which I don't have all of at this time. I could continue to work and save that amount which would take me another 1-1 1/2 years, wondering if anyone had any suggestions on other options to fund the down payment. Is there a way or a loan that would allow me to enroll the down payment into the loan? Would that even be a good idea? Thought about a HELOC but I am unsure if I would be able to obtain it and/or if it would generate what I need to cover down payment.

Looking for some clarification/guidance, feel so lost at the moment. Thanks in advanced. 


 I am a travel nurse as well, and I also hold a PRN job as well. I ran into a few issues when I first started traveling but have been able to talk with lenders to help them understand my situation, how I am paid, etc... here is my recommendation. 

- Talk with multiple lenders, just because one tells you something, doesn't mean that others cant help you. Make sure to send them a detailed email explaining how you are paid, how much, contract length, pay history in this career, job outlook, etc.. May ask them to take into consideration if you were to just go back working a FT job as if it were what you made prior to travel nursing. 

- Go ahead and try and get a HELOC. If you do not refinance, you will not be able to get another FHA loan, so unless you get a single family home, you will have to put down anywhere from 15-25% down on a multi family if it is your primary. So a HELOC will at least help with any down payments, renovations, or even just reserves.

- I used Pentagon FCU for my HELOC on my Duplex in Texas.

Post: Travel Nurse Friendly Lending Options

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Quote from @Josh Meadows:

Hi,

My wife and I are currently shopping the market for a primary residence that we could add value to and then later cash out refinance as well as finding a lender to help us accomplish this. I have run into DTI issues in the past with lenders because they don't/won't work with stipend pay from the government even though it's signed by both parties in an agreed upon contract for an agreed upon time. For example... Let's say I am paid a net of $2068 weekly. My pay stub would reflect that I am paid $28 an hour for 36 hours for a taxable gross of $1008. The other untaxed portion on my pay stub given by the government (according to the GSA.GOV website) for a meals and housing stipend equal out to $1060. Do you guys happen to know of any lenders that work with this type of mixed stipend/taxable income?

Thanks,

Josh Meadows RN

Hi there Josh, I am a travel nurse as well and have come across issues with lending as well. While it might make it easier for me that I maintain a PRN position at my staff hospital of 4+ yrs, I am receive W2's from my travel agencies and am not considered 1099. With lenders that I do conventional for, I have had to 
- Send a letter of explanation of how I am paid, when I am paid, how long I have been in the industry, explaining contracts, and explaining how high of demand this profession is. 
- Send them my contracts
- Once I had to have my recruiter actually send them an email stating the contract length, pay breakdown, and job demand with pay outlook. 

Keep shopping around with lenders, or may consider doing a DSCR loan if all else fails. 
  

Post: Financing for travel nurses

Chris Allen
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  • Temple, TX
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Quote from @Stephanie P.:
Quote from @Sophia Fugate:

Good evening, I currently work as a travel nurse and having a hard time finding conventional lending. I’ve been a nurse for 13 yrs but started traveling this past June. I spoke with two lenders who stated they would not be able to help me.

Would anyone happen to have any knowledge regarding when a travel nurse should apply for a conventional loan? Or would another financing option be available? Should I keep calling different lenders? 

Thanks!! 


 Taxes are the key.  If you are a travel nurse like some of our clients have been, they are paid 1099 and you need to have a track history of being self employed for 2 years before you'll qualify for conventional financing, even if you've been a nurse for 13 years, it's all about how you're being paid.  That's the case for bank statement loans as well (keep in mind these are generalizations and there may be a rogue bank statement product out there for self employed people with less than 2 years self employed, but I don't know about it).

DSCR loans work best in your situation and the more you can put down, the better the pricing. Rates are still in the 7's on a 30 year fixed (yes the points and fees are borrower paid and more than conventional). No self employed time constraints, no tax returns, no pay stubs and no profit and loss statements. The property has to have at least a .75 DSCR meaning the rent has to cover at least 75% of the total mortgage and you have to have decent credit; that's all. Find a good mortgage broker.

Hope that answers your question.

Stephanie


 I have been travel nursing for the last two years and have actually been considered W2 with the companies I travel with. Most of the travel nurses I personally know are all W2 as well, though I know there is a lot of nurses out there that do prefer to be paid as 1099.