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All Forum Posts by: Dave Stevens

Dave Stevens has started 7 posts and replied 17 times.

Post: How do YOU find leads?

Dave StevensPosted
  • Investor
  • Wayne, PA
  • Posts 21
  • Votes 0
Originally posted by Clifton Jones:
Brett, your best bet when dealing with realtors is to meet quite a few of them and just be honest with them. State that you are an investor who is interested in working with them on purchasing properties.

We work with realtors in our business. One of our requirements when working with the realtor that we state right up front is that we handle the negotiations. We will not allow somebody else to handle the negotiations on our deals, for the most part, because most of the negotiators are not conversant with how to negotiate the deals we submit.

As an investor, you submit offers that are significantly lower the fair market value. Due to this, you would also submit reasons justifying the offer, such as repair lists, crime rate, sexual offender lists, police reports, anything that can cause the lender to accept your offer. Do you think that the typical negotiator, who is usually a title agency or the realtor themselves, would understand or even think it was worth it to submit your offer?

If the realtor is comfortable with this, then that is a realtor that is a potential candidate for your team. That does not mean that you should work with them. Once you have established that they accept the requirements you have (not necessarily the negotiation issue, but all issues), then you need to ask them about the properties they closed in the last year, 9 months, 6 months, month, etc. Establish whether they are go-getters, or if they wait for deals to come to them.

If they wait for the deals, then I would not want them on my team. I want active go-getters, somebody who actively markets properties, hold open houses, etc. Those are the realtors you want to work with.


How do you get to the seller thru the realtor? Are these listings that come to your realtor or do they go on MLS? I'm not sure I'm asking this questions correctly, I had a nice conversation yesterday with a realtor, explained everything I had to offer him, he was on board. They we got to the part about how he gets me in contact with the seller & I was stumped.

Post: approval letter

Dave StevensPosted
  • Investor
  • Wayne, PA
  • Posts 21
  • Votes 0

I got the approval letter yesterday from Citi Mortgage on my first deal!!! Is this the language I should be looking for in terms of deficiency?

5. Upon receipt of the NET PROCEEDS and a COPY OF THE FINAL SETTLEMENT STATEMENT, CitiMortgage, Inc. will give a full release and reconveyance of their loan as agreed and no deficiency judgment will be instituted.

Thanks, I have learned so much by reading this forum.

Post: What is the best way to tie up a property?

Dave StevensPosted
  • Investor
  • Wayne, PA
  • Posts 21
  • Votes 0
Originally posted by David Braut:
Andy,
There is a lot to learn if you want to close short sales and not just "work on them". There are right ways to do them and ways that will just waste your time and end in frustration. This alone makes this niche worthwhile since many try and most just end up frustrated since they don't have the proper knowledge.
To answer your question, you may record a "notice of option" at the county recorders office if using an option contract or a "notice of purchase and sale agreement"/"memorandum of agreement" if using a p and s agreement. This will cloud the title and prevent someone else from "stealing" your deal.
For more info on how to be successful with short sales, contact me... Good luck!


Would this recorded "notice of purchase & sale agreement" prevent any liens from being attached to the property?

Post: Need Some Advice

Dave StevensPosted
  • Investor
  • Wayne, PA
  • Posts 21
  • Votes 0

I'm working on my first short sale. The bank is Citi Mortgage. All my paperwork is in and has been sent to negotiator. My comps show a value of approx $250K. My offer was for $175K. I got this email today from the negotiator:

The investor will require a Net of $229,500 on this property before we can consider this for a short sale. Please revise this offer and send me an updated HUD when completed.
This file will be closed until I receive the achieved amount.

Should I get my own BPO?

Post: Net REO spreadsheet

Dave StevensPosted
  • Investor
  • Wayne, PA
  • Posts 21
  • Votes 0

Does anyone use a net REO spreadsheet to help justify your short sale offer compared to the bank taking the house back?

Post: advise on making a short sale offer

Dave StevensPosted
  • Investor
  • Wayne, PA
  • Posts 21
  • Votes 0
Originally posted by Dave Stevens:
Hi guys, newbie here working on my first short sale. I just got a payoff figure form the lawyers, here is the break down:

Principal Balance: $ 325,243.93
Interest: $ 12,499.86
Late Charges: $ 616.96
Escrow: $ 6,397.95
Property Inspections: $ 172.20
FHA/PMI: $ 581.19
Servicing Fee: $ 125.31
County Costs: $ 280.25
Sheriff Costs: $ 7,599.39
Additional Costs: $ 485.00
Attorney Fee: $ 1,325.00

Recent comps show similar houses selling for $245K to $250K with approx 150 days on market. I want to make an low offer the shows I'm serious but not too low that shows I don't know what I'm doing. Any suggestion?


"Be serious about making money, not looking serious to the bank. If a ridiculous offer makes money, make a ridiculous offer." Thanks Jon, good advice

Regarding the numbers from my original post, do I need to account for these in my preliminary HUD?

Post: advise on making a short sale offer

Dave StevensPosted
  • Investor
  • Wayne, PA
  • Posts 21
  • Votes 0

Hi guys, newbie here working on my first short sale. I just got a payoff figure form the lawyers, here is the break down:

Principal Balance: $ 325,243.93
Interest: $ 12,499.86
Late Charges: $ 616.96
Escrow: $ 6,397.95
Property Inspections: $ 172.20
FHA/PMI: $ 581.19
Servicing Fee: $ 125.31
County Costs: $ 280.25
Sheriff Costs: $ 7,599.39
Additional Costs: $ 485.00
Attorney Fee: $ 1,325.00

Recent comps show similar houses selling for $245K to $250K with approx 150 days on market. I want to make an low offer the shows I'm serious but not too low that shows I don't know what I'm doing. Any suggestion?