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All Forum Posts by: Curtis Curley

Curtis Curley has started 15 posts and replied 47 times.

Post: When is the best time to sell a piece of undeveloped property?

Curtis CurleyPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Houston, TX
  • Posts 47
  • Votes 5

@Joshua Young It’s in Houston, TX.  I also have my own home in the area.

Post: Clearing title for land bought in cash

Curtis CurleyPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Houston, TX
  • Posts 47
  • Votes 5

FYI, I was able to settle this issue by working directly with a title company.  They looked at my documentation and agreed to insure any transaction I wanted to make.

Post: When is the best time to sell a piece of undeveloped property?

Curtis CurleyPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Houston, TX
  • Posts 47
  • Votes 5

I own a piece of undeveloped property and would like some criteria to know when it's time to sell or if it should be leased.  This property is located in an underdeveloped community that is in the process of being updated.  My concern is that the coming recession will likely slow this process down or even wipe out the equity.  The property doesn't have a home on it and there are trees and underbrush.

Post: Clearing title for land bought in cash

Curtis CurleyPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Houston, TX
  • Posts 47
  • Votes 5
Rick Harmon There's so much you're not missing because you didn't read the book I wrote. I don't have title insurance. We purchased with a lawyer only.

Post: Clearing title for land bought in cash

Curtis CurleyPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Houston, TX
  • Posts 47
  • Votes 5
Rick Harmon And if the transaction has already taken place with a lawyer? It seems like title companies only want to deal with you during the sale.

Post: Clearing title for land bought in cash

Curtis CurleyPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Houston, TX
  • Posts 47
  • Votes 5

@Rick H.  If someone hasn't went through probate and the title company doesn't like the current proof of heir ship documents, is adverse possession the only way to posses? 

I've already paid for the property and can't get money back.  Owner died in 1981 and is on record to only being married once and having no kids.  But the title company still isn't happy. 

Post: Clearing title for land bought in cash

Curtis CurleyPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Houston, TX
  • Posts 47
  • Votes 5
So many words. Guess I'll use pictures next time. Your sarcasm is appreciated.

Post: Clearing title for land bought in cash

Curtis CurleyPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Houston, TX
  • Posts 47
  • Votes 5

This story may be long and I'll do what I can to summarize.  Here's the scenario.  I purchased a piece of property with cash.  It was my very first time purchasing property with cash and I thought it would speed things up.  Many title companies stated that they couldn't do the deal but one title company sent us to a lawyer who said they could.  That lawyer drew up a General Warranty Deed and received a limited title certificate, we signed and paid the seller directly.  The seller believed it was his property because his mother quit claimed the property to her children and all of the children quitclaimed their piece of the property to him.  The Warranty Deed is filed and we get the deed back.  We are happy. 

The property is in a flood zone and I wanted to use my own contractors to build my first home on the property.  I even had an architect draw out a home for me.  Because it's in a flood zone, we have to do engineering drawings and flood mitigation plans.  This takes months to accomplish and out of pocket expenses.  After this is complete, we started working on finding the contractors and they proved to be unreliable.  This caused me to scrap that idea and go with a builder.  The builder looked at the plans I had drawn up and told me the house was going to cost me over 300k to build.  So I scrapped that plan and went with a smaller plan.  We agreed and started moving through the process.  When the process gets to title, the title company says that the title is not clear even though I have the general warranty deed.  Process is halted to prove that the land belongs to the guy I bought it from.  Turns out the seller's father never went through probate.  So in reality, the property never completely belong to his mother in the first place.  Monkey wrench.  I go back to the seller for my money but it's been too long.  He's spent it and taking him to court wouldn't avail much.  All of his money is tied up in retirement accounts.  Can't garnish that in Texas.  On to the hunt. 

Sellers step-father died in 1981 and the seller doesn't know if he had any siblings or if this was his first marriage.  There's no way to really prove he didn't have another family or kids, which sounds really weird to me to try to prove.  I don't even know how I would prove that.  We subscribe to ancestry.com and research the family like crazy without finding anything.  I get with an attorney who says we can get some proof of heir ship documents from the sellers siblings, but we're still having problems closing.  My attorney states if this doesn't work, then we'll just have to an adverse possession.  We would have to fence the property in for 3 years and then file the papers.  Now to the questions.

Is this my only course of action?  Why are lawyers so expensive when they don't get the desired result at times?  I paid the attorney to draw up the proof heirship documents and get them signed, her idea, but the title company still didn't accept it.

What would you do?

Post: First post and looking to flip in Houston, TX

Curtis CurleyPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Houston, TX
  • Posts 47
  • Votes 5

@Account Closed

Thanks for checking back on me Matt.  I have made some moves lately that shifted my entire focus on the family side as well as provided a canvas to paint investment ideas.  I moved out of a suburb and bought some land.  I'm in the process of building my home and looking to build some small houses behind mine.  I would use these as rentals on my property to start my real estate endeavor. 

Post: Debt free, building a home, looking to invest afterwards

Curtis CurleyPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Houston, TX
  • Posts 47
  • Votes 5
Originally posted by @Michael Kevorkian:

Hi @Curtis Curley I really like your discipline and where you're heading mentally to get yourself financially free. I have to agree with @Nazz Wang on her post as you need either time or money to get into this business. Sometimes just a little of both, if you have the money to invest you can find companies that will get you in and out of deals (specifically flips) pretty fast so you can gauge the process better than buying and holding with a company or on your own which can tie up your capital for a longer period of time. 

I think the best thing to do would be to either be a hard money lender or equity partner with a rehabber/flipper whereby your money isn't tied up too long and you are pretty much hands off. You put up the funds, they do all the work and you get paid. Obviously equity position has more upside profit potential but usually not the monthly cashflow to go along with it. In other words, you wait until the property sells to get paid but the payoff is higher than hard money lending in most cases.

Regarding your comment on "a lot of risk" with flips.... What makes you say that? I do a lot of rehabs / flips as my "job" and have learned to mitigate the risks in this business as most experienced rehabbers will learn over the years. There is no risk free investment out there but also don't think that just because you hear things in idle conversation that it makes them true. If that were the case this blog might be called "thinnerpockets" or something like that. The truth is if you align yourself with the right people who have a proven system and business in place then you should do just fine. 

If you have any questions I'm always happy to answer them so please feel free to message me anytime. .

Thanks, 

Michael Kevorkian

 Anybody ever mess with you about your name?  Very interesting.  Did you have a full time job before you got involved in real estate?  I'm curious to know how money can really be made doing flips.  This is your full time job now.  How long did it take you transition to this level?