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All Forum Posts by: Frank Patalano

Frank Patalano has started 8 posts and replied 1966 times.

Post: How far to bend for a new tenant

Frank Patalano
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  • East Providence, RI
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Quote from @Petya Toncheva:

I recently purchased a duplex in Fairfield county. Each unit is 2 beds, 1 bath, 9 ft ceilings, parque floors, both apts are 1066 sq ft.

Cost: 600k

Down:25%

When I bought the property one unit was empty and the other unit had a tenant who was paying $1700 but agreed before the sale was final to start paying $1850. In this market these apts go for $2500 to $3200, so she was still waaaaay under market.

A few days after closing I spoke with her and explained the market to her and since she was living at the property for 6 yrs I would only raise it to $2500 and she agreed without even batting an eye.

Something was strange cause 2 weeks goes by and she didn’t sign the lease. So, I see her at the property and her boyfriends comes out and says he will be moving in, I say totally fine but you’ll need a credit check and background check at your cost and also the rent will go up to $2650.

Another week goes by and she says no her boyfriend is not moving in and she’ll sign the lease for $2500.

Again another week she doesn’t sign the lease . I see her on the property and her, her boyfriend and her daughter corner me and almost demand that I let the boyfriend move in but at the rate of $2500 not $2650.

So my dilemma is:

1. I am already just at the market rate at $2500 but should be higher. So I’m already bending for her, do I bend more and give in to her requests.

2. I don’t want them to become tenants from hell

3. Do I negotiate further or do I stand firm on the $2650?

I hope I didn’t bore you, anyone going through this or been through this. Please share your thoughts.

Would love to here from you all

Everything needs to be in writing

 If you have quoted her $2,500, put it in writing. Give her a copy of a month to month lease to review.
Has she paid April yet? How much?
What are the laws in the area on how much time you need to give to a rent raise?
What are the laws regarding a time from for lease renewal?
You need to set a date that she has to sign by and stick to it. 

It will probably be easier to move onto a new tenant.

Post: Transferred My Rental To My LLC - How Do I go about getting an Heloc?

Frank Patalano
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  • East Providence, RI
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Good luck getting a HELOC on an LLC.
95% of lenders are an automatic No.

Post: So what's holding you back?

Frank Patalano
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  • East Providence, RI
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Quote from @Alixander Laffredo-Dietrich:
Quote from @Frank Patalano:
Quote from @Alixander Laffredo-Dietrich:

I’m looking at my first property atm after a personally rough 2022. FYI, I live in Richmond, Virginia.

The hard news: I was laid off multiple times that year so I don’t qualify for renovation loans. More so I had to move back in with my family which is a major shot to personal morale.

The good news: I’ve recouped my cash savings to $20k in a few months! I’ve got a few lenders lined up and am working with an agent.

My situation is a bit odd, and I’m trying to figure out the best way to go about it…advice is definitely welcome!

Currently, I'm staying with family in Richmond, VA as a 30M (layoffs hurt!) so needless to say, I'm trying to exit asap!

However, I want to buy a house and not get tied into renting. My budget is $250k although I’d like to stay closer to $200k.

I’m looking for homes where I can live with a roommate to offset living costs, and would meet the 1% rule when I move out to my next home.

Unfortunately, I’m having a very hard time with this. Most homes I find are in the .7%-.75% rent to purchase price.

So here are my choices as I see them (again, please offer any advice).

A. Buy a home on the cheaper side that negatively cash flows just so I can move out and collect equity on something using a conventional loan. Then, after a year, I can qualify for a renovation loan for another house, fix that up, and have a positive cash-flowing property. Pro: I have a home and flexibility. Con: I’m not making money on it.

B. Stick it out and hope things get better while stashing more cash away. Pro: Rapidly increase savings. Con: Risk being a 31M living with his family.

C. Rent and hope things get better. Pro: I’m out of my family’s house. Con: I’m losing money and have less flexibility to leave my rental contract.

I personally am leaning towards A. It’s not perfect, but I’m fairly certain I can get my living expenses around $1k living with a roommate and I can bust *** to regain savings to buy a pure rental property.

In addition, we are seeing a huge influx of people from DC, NYC, LA, and Austin. I lived in Raleigh NC a few years ago and saw home prices skyrocket. I don’t want to miss that train here in Richmond.

Thoughts?


 I'll go with a modified A strategy. Is there a way to find a 3 bed or even a 2 bed with a decent firecode approvable basement? Then you can generate income from 2 friends instead of one. I would hate for you to be losing money but you do need a place to live anyway.
Are you paying your family rent now? If you are then make sure that you are figuring that it.

Is there a way to find a partner with more Cash than you and you do the sweat equity and the work?

Is there a way to buy with seller financing.


 You know, now that you mention it, I think I can find a 3bd1bth around the city and meet that. I can rent it by room.

BUT, you've given me another idea with the basement. RVA doesn't have a lot of basements per se but the homes I've seen have a tall crawl space. High enough to comfortably sit in but not stand in. I'm thinking, what if I get some carpets for the cheap, put fluff on the ceiling and wall, a dehumidifier, and boom got a practice space I can rent by the hour. I'm connected with musicians around here. I'm thinking I get a 200k house, I'm probably paying $1600 with everything included (PMI, tax, etc.)

I’ll have to see how much those spaces rent for but just thinking creative ways to use a non-bedroom.


 3 bed Awesome.

That crawlspace idea is good. Might want to check with the city on egress requirements and soundproof it from complaining neighbors...

Post: So what's holding you back?

Frank Patalano
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • East Providence, RI
  • Posts 1,992
  • Votes 1,439
Quote from @Alixander Laffredo-Dietrich:

I’m looking at my first property atm after a personally rough 2022. FYI, I live in Richmond, Virginia.

The hard news: I was laid off multiple times that year so I don’t qualify for renovation loans. More so I had to move back in with my family which is a major shot to personal morale.

The good news: I’ve recouped my cash savings to $20k in a few months! I’ve got a few lenders lined up and am working with an agent.

My situation is a bit odd, and I’m trying to figure out the best way to go about it…advice is definitely welcome!

Currently, I'm staying with family in Richmond, VA as a 30M (layoffs hurt!) so needless to say, I'm trying to exit asap!

However, I want to buy a house and not get tied into renting. My budget is $250k although I’d like to stay closer to $200k.

I’m looking for homes where I can live with a roommate to offset living costs, and would meet the 1% rule when I move out to my next home.

Unfortunately, I’m having a very hard time with this. Most homes I find are in the .7%-.75% rent to purchase price.

So here are my choices as I see them (again, please offer any advice).

A. Buy a home on the cheaper side that negatively cash flows just so I can move out and collect equity on something using a conventional loan. Then, after a year, I can qualify for a renovation loan for another house, fix that up, and have a positive cash-flowing property. Pro: I have a home and flexibility. Con: I’m not making money on it.

B. Stick it out and hope things get better while stashing more cash away. Pro: Rapidly increase savings. Con: Risk being a 31M living with his family.

C. Rent and hope things get better. Pro: I’m out of my family’s house. Con: I’m losing money and have less flexibility to leave my rental contract.

I personally am leaning towards A. It’s not perfect, but I’m fairly certain I can get my living expenses around $1k living with a roommate and I can bust *** to regain savings to buy a pure rental property.

In addition, we are seeing a huge influx of people from DC, NYC, LA, and Austin. I lived in Raleigh NC a few years ago and saw home prices skyrocket. I don’t want to miss that train here in Richmond.

Thoughts?


 I'll go with a modified A strategy. Is there a way to find a 3 bed or even a 2 bed with a decent firecode approvable basement? Then you can generate income from 2 friends instead of one. I would hate for you to be losing money but you do need a place to live anyway.
Are you paying your family rent now? If you are then make sure that you are figuring that it.

Is there a way to find a partner with more Cash than you and you do the sweat equity and the work?

Is there a way to buy with seller financing.

Post: So what's holding you back?

Frank Patalano
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  • East Providence, RI
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Quote from @Jeremy Garges:

@Frank Patalano

IBLOC is insurance backed line of credit.

This is on a new construction with 1 year builder warranty.   Longer term goal would be family use/retirement home so it's not all about immediate cash flow.   

Maybe I'm doing the math wrong, but with purchase price at 330k, 20% down would put mortgage at 265k.

3500 / year taxes

1200 / year insurance

I did just research the JAX REIA, however, I live in PA so it would be difficult to make the meetings in person. I'm going to look into this some more, thanks for your advice !

Yeah it's different if you are going to use it as well.

Some REIA have multiple in-person and zoom meetings every month. That REIA might also have a facebook group, etc.

Post: Just started a new business. What are best investment options?

Frank Patalano
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Hey Steve,

Great ideas and great financial position to start. 
Like you said, your ideas are all over the map.

Hawaii is a little closer to you by air but would be considered a more mature market. Probably with less cashflow.
Puerto Rico being a US territory is a different animal. Some different rules and different lending options. At the same point, I feel that the investments in PR would be less expensive and less buyer competition.
 
If I were you, I would research and partner on the first one especially when both are at least 6 hours from your house.

I'm assuming that PR is culturally similar to Dominican Republic. I own a small hotel there and wow was it quite different that I expected. A huge learning curve. Good luck. 

Post: Relocating back to Boston (from San Diego) end of august. Need advice.

Frank Patalano
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  • East Providence, RI
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Hey @Ramin M.
Early Welcome back to the New England Neighborhood.
I can speak for RI and I run the local REIA which has members from Eastern CT to the SouthCoast of MA.
RI is an hour out of Boston.
If you are looking to househack I would suggest Lincoln, RI. Nicer parts of Pawtucket are okay too.
Over the line in Massachusetts, South Attleboro and Attleboro are both great spots and the train has been here for years.

Post: How do I acquire a loan for 25k to 35k

Frank Patalano
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I would look into a personal loan from Discover or a local bank/credit union. 
Usually they will lend $25k.

Post: LLC or purchase as individual with spouse for first property

Frank Patalano
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Quote from @Louis Louisius:

Hi, I'm looking to purchase my first property with my spouse. I'm not sure which option would be best. Do we start an LLC to get the loan or do we just apply for it as individuals like a regular mortgage loan. this will be for a vacation home that we will utilize as an STR in Tennessee.

just want to know which is best option for us. LLC or no LLC


 If it is a vacation home, I would say no.
I am someone who supports LLCs most of the time but it is different because I never plan on spending time at the properties.
Get an umbrella policy/extra insurance and you should be fine.
Plus it will be easier to get a loan on a vacation home than on a purely investment home.

Have you considered holding in a trust? Just throwing out an idea that some friends use. 

Post: How do you communicate rent increase to tenants

Frank Patalano
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Quote from @Jeni Nikolova:

Hello,

What is a good and (if possible) kind way to communicate to tenants that if they were to renew the lease, the rent will be increased at the legally allowed rate, which in this case is 10%?
They are currently in their third year and last year had $0 increase …

I posted the home on Zillow, at 13% above the current rent, and there is a healthy amount of interest so my guess is the current rent is way below market rate.


I would appreciate insight from people who have gone through this and/or others who have good advice.


 So I will preface by saying that I do not know CA or San Diego specific rules. 
I would suggest a rent increase or 7 or 8% instead of the full max allowed.
In the future, It would be easier if you increase a standard amount every year. 5% or $100 or something like that.
In your letter, you could mention increased costs, inflation, etc. Some landlords like to say it. Some don't.

Definitely send a letter.  In my state, the letter needs to go out and you need to wait 30 days after the beginning of the next rental period. So if I was going to mail today, the first month with increased rent will be the payment due on June 1st.
And if they are senior citizens it is 60 days.