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All Forum Posts by: Casey Crowe

Casey Crowe has started 5 posts and replied 73 times.

Post: Window replacement Columbia SC

Casey CrowePosted
  • Columbia, SC
  • Posts 77
  • Votes 49

One thing to note about Window World is that if you get windows from them and have them install them, they're required for the windows to meet code, which means a fancier window than their basic ones. So you can get cheaper windows if you install them yourself or sub that out. But getting from them requires a more expensive product. 

Also their grid add-ons are nuts! 84 Lumber is like $15.

Post: West Columbia Rental, too high?

Casey CrowePosted
  • Columbia, SC
  • Posts 77
  • Votes 49

If you're open to USC students, there's an off-campus USC housing Facebook group you could post it in.

Post: West Columbia Rental, too high?

Casey CrowePosted
  • Columbia, SC
  • Posts 77
  • Votes 49

What did you base your rent price at? West Columbia can be a crapshoot. Some areas have higher rents than others. 

Post: Window replacement Columbia SC

Casey CrowePosted
  • Columbia, SC
  • Posts 77
  • Votes 49

I just got quotes from a few different places and 84 Lumber in Lexington is the cheapest, provided you're installing yourself. You can also find Stroud Supply out in Lexington/Two Notch area but they don't always have everything in stock. They're like a wholesaler of stuff. Everything is new. I paid $80 for a window there, but they just had the one. 

Originally posted by @Erik Perotti:

Hi - Thank you for the feedback. So, @Jay Hinrichs, @Casey Crowe, its getting down to the wire. I'm looking for that little bit of data to make my numbers work, and I think you've captured it here - again, talking South Carolina:

"...  assessed value is always significantly lower than market value"

I am looking at a house at auction, hoping to get it for $140k on Tuesday. Further, hoping to put $60k in it, taking me to $200k invested. 

I'm thinking it will appraise in the $260k or so for financing - would like to BRRRR this property. Zillow today shows $230k as the taxed assessed value.

The question is, is the assessed value more like the $140k I pay at auction, or closer to the $230k that Zillow is showing, or worse still, the $260k I expect at the appraisal with the Refi?

Under the hood, as an investor, in terms of monthly taxes, based on the above:

Good scenario - $140k*.06 (investor v owner-occupied)*.5 millage = $4200 annually or $350/mo

Bad scenario - $230k*.06*.5 = $6900 or $575/mo

Terrible scenario - $260k*.06*.5 = $7800 or $650/mo

As you may imagine, these numbers make or break cash flow potential.

Also, an extra credit question: let's say you answer the bad scenario. Ok, what would you recommend? Does it lose its BRRRR goodness or would keep some cash in it to break even and Refi less than I can? Or would you flip and 1031 it? 

All respect and appreciation. 

Erik

 
Hi Erik, have you checked the rents on this property? You may be hard pressed to get a single family to fork over the rent for that kind of house. Typically they'd just buy if they can afford something in that price range to rent. 

There are other great properties around that are good deals. There's one I've had my eye on but don't have the money to buy. 

The assessed value comes from the purchase price, OR an assessment, whichever is newer. SC hasn't had a state assessment in a few years now, so your taxes (paid in arrears at the end of the year) would be for the $140k. So $140,000 x 6% x millage. (Don't forget that if you refinance the property, it will trigger a reassessment to the new, ARV) What's the street address of the property? I can check your taxes if you'd like. Feel free to PM me, I'm not going to go scoop it up, I promise. :)

Originally posted by @Aris Alexiou:
Originally posted by @Casey Crowe:

Hi Aris! Welcome! My advice to you is to be sure you understand the property taxes in this state, and use the calculators to ensure your numbers will work for you. Most of the time when you look at loans they will estimate taxes based on you living in the property. If you don't, they can be exponentially higher due to a couple different factors. You can always get a property to cash flow by putting enough equity/cash into it when you purchase, but be sure to run ROI numbers to see if the return suits you. Cheers!

Quick google search implies that SC tax for something like this is 6%. Seems quite sizable.

See this thread here: https://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/747/topics/697421-out-of-state-investor-starting-to-look-at-s-carolina

Hi Aris! Welcome! My advice to you is to be sure you understand the property taxes in this state, and use the calculators to ensure your numbers will work for you. Most of the time when you look at loans they will estimate taxes based on you living in the property. If you don't, they can be exponentially higher due to a couple different factors. You can always get a property to cash flow by putting enough equity/cash into it when you purchase, but be sure to run ROI numbers to see if the return suits you. Cheers!

Originally posted by @Erik Perotti:

@Casey Crowe I don't quite get what you are saying about:

Purchase price (or last appraised price, whichever is newer) x 4 or 6% x millage. In most areas that will be .45 - .57 or so. 

Can you please check my example?

Purchase Price = $100k

6% - investor

Millage  - .57

Is it $100k*.06*.57 or $3420 ( investor)? Versus $100k*.04*.57 = 2280 for owner-occupant? 

Sorry, just seeing this. Yes, that's correct. BUT! There's something else. Owners get a break for the state sales tax they implemented a couple years ago. That gets deducted as well.

I ran a property today for a friend on a $138,000 house, and here's what the numbers wound up as:

Owner-occupied: $1,035.26 or $86.25/mo

Non Owner-occupied: $4,376.69 or $364/mo

Here's another I pulled today, same county but different school district, and the actual tax bill so you can see how it's calculated. The sales tax credit makes things fuzzy. (It's on my to-do list to talk to the tax assessor's office to get their formula for the credits)

You can always go to the respective county sites to run numbers. Lexington doesn't give you the  millage rates on their site, but Richland does: 

Same everything in Richland but owner occupied:

Does that help clarify? It's crazyness, I know. The only way to really know is to just run every single property through these things to see what they're going to charge you. That's why I like 2-4 plexes. It divides the taxes up among the doors (property, not buildings are taxed) and increases cash flow and makes rent more competitive. 

Post: Property Managers in Columbia

Casey CrowePosted
  • Columbia, SC
  • Posts 77
  • Votes 49

I've not used them as a landlord, but as a tenant Turner Properties was pretty good.