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All Forum Posts by: Account Closed

Account Closed has started 2 posts and replied 11 times.

Post: Beginning your investing in a lower income city and moving?

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  • Colorado Spgs, CO
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Originally posted by @Robert Herrera:

Mindy Jensen Carter Rinaldi puebloriverwalk.com. Here you go, do some research. Also do you research before investing in Colorado Springs or Denver. You should pretty much do you research anywhere you invest, wondering why moderator feels the need to jump in and explain that.

I'm aware of this. I was simply asking if this is common practice to move somewhere with the expressed purpose of investing to be able to afforda different location. I'm still many years out from buying a property. Just trying to plan.

Post: Beginning your investing in a lower income city and moving?

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  • Colorado Spgs, CO
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Originally posted by @Jared Bouzek:

@Account Closed Yep if you're VA eligible that would be a huge advantage for you. One thing to keep in mind is that the VA loan does require some landlord experience in order to count your rental income from the other units as qualifying income. Have you ever owned any rental properties or maybe worked for a property management company? Anything that has a link to being a landlord or managing properties could potentially be used to me the experience requirement if it makes sense to an underwriter.

Do I only need landlord experience if I want to claim the cash flow from the property as income for the loan? My job in the military once I'm in should hopefully translate into a good civilian job, so would I be fine in that case?

Post: Beginning your investing in a lower income city and moving?

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  • Colorado Spgs, CO
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@Jared Bouzek I worked under the table doing grunt work for a guy who owns some rental property down here for a day if that counts! Other than that I've got nothing as of yet. 

Post: Beginning your investing in a lower income city and moving?

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  • Colorado Spgs, CO
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@Trevor Kolb That would probably be best, but I'm not sure how much my girlfriend now, probably wife then would feel about not having a living space that was private. I'd be fine with it, but it probably wouldn't fit my future situation. Ideally I'm looking to house-hack a 4-plex and get ~1000/mo cash flow from the other 3 units and just save until I can start snowballing properties.

Post: Beginning your investing in a lower income city and moving?

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  • Colorado Spgs, CO
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@Jared Bouzek Wow, that is a lot more manageable. Plus if I'm going to be living there then I'll be able to apply the VA loan that I'll have at the time to it to make it even better. Whew. I really wasn't enjoying entertaining the idea of moving to Pueblo. Thank you! I really appreciate it.

Post: How to analyze a property. What should I be doing/looking at?

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  • Colorado Spgs, CO
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Originally posted by @Ken Vingua:

I have been in the Marine Corps for 15 years and have purchased 5 rental houses, am doing some flips, and am looking for more. You are correct in saying that you will not be given a housing allowance and will not be permitted to live out in town until you are either married or a SNCO, sometimes a senior NCO. That could be 7 to 10 years into your career. That only prevents you from owner occupied VA investing but you can still invest in pure rentals, wholesale, or whatever strategy fits your plan.

When it comes to education you have found the treasure chest of knowledge here at BP.  I would suggest you begin by reading the Ultimate Beginner's Guide https://www.biggerpockets.com/files/user/brandonat....  That will give you the terminology, rules of thumbs, and basics on analyzing properties so you can begin to focus your effort towards topics that interest you.  Listen to every podcast on BP and join the webinars.  

Once you have a base of knowledge then you should start analyzing deals.  Use the BP calculator or whatever you find useful.  I use the Deal Check app from my phone for a quick tool at analyzing properties.  Start to save money and position yourself financially to be able to take advantage of your hard work and education that you have gained.  Set For Life by Scott Trench is a good resource for embracing frugality to prepare yourself to invest.

Feel free to connect with me whenever.  The Marine Corps can both provide good opportunities to invest and present unique problems that will make investing difficult.

You can move off base even as an E-2 if you're married? I have a very long term girlfriend and we're planning on getting married after my MOS school. I'll check out that article and I'll be sure to connect with you further once I'm checked into my first duty station and settled in probably a year or so. At this point I'm just trying to posture myself to hit the ground running. I really appreciate it. Thank you, sir.

Post: How to analyze a property. What should I be doing/looking at?

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  • Colorado Spgs, CO
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Originally posted by @Ron Flatt:

yes, that is why I said wait until you get your duty station

I'm fairly sure my branch (USMC) requires you to be a certain rank, probably NCO or SNCO, to live off base. So that is probably not going to be an option, sadly.

Post: Beginning your investing in a lower income city and moving?

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  • Colorado Spgs, CO
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Originally posted by @Jason D.:
I think the obvious answer is that if you can't afford to invest where you live, invest somewhere you can afford. I don't know anything about pueblo but if prices are reasonable and it's a place you can cash flow, I don't see any reason not to Invest there. My first requirement for a rental is "would I live in the neighborhood?", so if it's a decent area, start looking. If it continues to make you money, there may be no reason to sell at some point to invest in your current city.

I'd probably not live in any Pueblo neighborhood if I could avoid it to be completely honest. Not the nicest area of the state. Is it normal to have to look at lower income areas to avoid costs like that of Colorado Springs? Having to put $73,000 down starting out just seems absurd.

Post: Beginning your investing in a lower income city and moving?

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  • Colorado Spgs, CO
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Prices in my city (Colorado Springs, CO) are extremely high. Here is what the average rent looks like according to apartmentguide.com:

  • 1 bedroom: $1233
  • 2 bedrooms: $1441
  • 3 bedrooms: $1847

That being said I can't find even a duplex for under $300,000. I plugged one of these (https://goo.gl/aMtM7K) into the rental analysis calculator here and it would require a $73,000 down payment. Something will be pretty unobtainable for me starting out. So that being said, my question is this.

There is a city south of me called Pueblo, CO, according to the same site rent looks like this:

  • 1 bedroom: $650
  • 2 bedrooms: $765
  • 3 bedrooms: $963

Would it be worth it to start off living there and invest in Pueblo with the eventual goal of selling my Pueblo properties and buying a few in Colorado Springs? Would it be wise to stay down there? Or not even start there at all and just focus on Colorado Springs? Am I looking at this in the wrong way?

Thanks!

Post: How to analyze a property. What should I be doing/looking at?

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  • Colorado Spgs, CO
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Originally posted by @Ron Flatt:

Why wait two years?  My daughter is in the military, she bought her house as soon as she got her permanent duty station.  She is getting ready to move overseas.  She is planning on selling it, and have me reinvest it in my area so I can manage it while she is deployed.    

The sooner you start the better you will be. Make sure you continue to analyze some deals and then find a deal and make an offer. I would recommend waiting until you got your first assignment, you can use your VA loan which will be a smaller downpayment and your BHA will probably cover your entire payment or a good portion.

Thanks again for being willing to serve.  

Don't you have to live in the property for the VA loan to apply?