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All Forum Posts by: Camden Kelly

Camden Kelly has started 4 posts and replied 23 times.

Post: First BRRRR deal in Pittsburgh

Camden KellyPosted
  • Investor
  • Pittsburgh, PA
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 34

@Kwame Amoako I would be hesitant to say it has to be a great deal to be able to BRRRR. Some people don't mind leaving money in the deal if it cash flows, appreciates, etc. It really just depends what your goals are. BRRRR is more of a strategy for houses that need a lot of upgrades which fits my business model because I enjoy value adding.

Post: First BRRRR deal in Pittsburgh

Camden KellyPosted
  • Investor
  • Pittsburgh, PA
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 34

@Kwame Amoako the property appraised for $140,000. $140,000 x 75% = $105,000. Original cash invested = $88,000 cash vs. pulled out = $105,000. I Hope that makes sense!

Post: First BRRRR deal in Pittsburgh

Camden KellyPosted
  • Investor
  • Pittsburgh, PA
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 34

@Bernadeau C. I used keybank. I wasn’t thrilled with their process. However, I was given a better rate because I have my business account set up through them as well as my personal checking, savings, etc.

Post: First BRRRR deal in Pittsburgh

Camden KellyPosted
  • Investor
  • Pittsburgh, PA
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 34

@Kwame Amoako Hi! Great question. The bank I used gives you 75% loan to value. It’s pretty much the same process as taking out a traditional mortgage. The only difference is that, after the loan closes, the money is paid out similar to a cash payment. The money is then available for the next real estate transaction; allowing you to recycle the same money over and over while still holding the original property. Hope that’s helpful!

Post: First BRRRR deal in Pittsburgh

Camden KellyPosted
  • Investor
  • Pittsburgh, PA
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 34

@Boone Tyson Thanks man! The HELOC was absolutely the way to go. I'm a full time special education teacher, so having the capital for the first deal was made possible through the fruits of my own labor fixing up my personal property. In terms of a second deal... still looking. I'll be sure to post about it once I do. Appreciate the love!

Post: First BRRRR deal in Pittsburgh

Camden KellyPosted
  • Investor
  • Pittsburgh, PA
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 34

@Elise Bickel Tauber This is exactly the mindset I tried to have going into it. Thank you! I'm excited to prepare and search for the next deal!

Post: First BRRRR deal in Pittsburgh

Camden KellyPosted
  • Investor
  • Pittsburgh, PA
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 34

@Elise Bickel Tauber Hi, Elise!  Thanks for your interest.  I purchased this property in New Kensington. The Mount Vernon area of New Kensington still seems to be a decent area to invest in, maybe not in terms of appreciation as much as cash flow, but nonetheless the numbers worked! I've looked around for quite some time before I pulled the trigger on anything and this seemed to be a pretty good deal all things considered. 

Post: First BRRRR deal in Pittsburgh

Camden KellyPosted
  • Investor
  • Pittsburgh, PA
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 34

@Shai Flax Absolutely!  Please reach out if you ever have any questions or would like to connect.

Post: First BRRRR deal in Pittsburgh

Camden KellyPosted
  • Investor
  • Pittsburgh, PA
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 34

@Shai Flax Hi! Thanks for your interest! This was technically my 3rd rehab. I did a live in flip in 2017 and rolled the equity over into my current house. Sweat equity was definitely the main reason I was able to keep rehab costs so to low. I put about 300 hours of my own time into the property. The only item I outsourced was electrical updates ($2,100 to remove knob and tube and update everything to current code). It also helps that my father-in-law is a skilled contractor and has showed me a lot along the way. I know this isn't the ideal way to operate when scaling, but I wanted to hedge my bets in a way to keep costs as low as possible for my first BRRRR deal. I would imagine the rehab would be twice as expensive if I had contractor out all of the work I had put in.

Post: First BRRRR deal in Pittsburgh

Camden KellyPosted
  • Investor
  • Pittsburgh, PA
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 34

Investment Info:

Single-family residence buy & hold investment.

Purchase price: $53,000
Cash invested: $36,000

This was my first experience with BRRRR. I secured a line of credit against my primary residence for $85,000. I took the full amount out and purchased a single family home for $53,000 and rehabbed the whole thing top to bottom. This included, plumbing, electrical, a retaining wall, HVAC, flooring, kitchen, bathroom, paint, fixtures, ETC. My total invest in the property, including holding costs, is just north of $88,000. The house recently appraised for $140,000.

What made you interested in investing in this type of deal?

The numbers made sense. I had looked at and analyzed over 50 deals. This one fell into my lap (the seller had reached out to me). I was able to get the property at a premium do to the scope of work (80% of which I could do myself).

How did you find this deal and how did you negotiate it?

My father-in-law is a contractor. He was working on the house across the street when the seller approached him and asked if he wanted to take a look. He called me to let me know it could be a pretty quick turn around (2 months).

How did you finance this deal?

HELOC

How did you add value to the deal?

I updated everything in the house. Although I ended up spending a little more than I had originally wanted to, I feel that the extra money spent allowed me to ask for a little more in rent.

What was the outcome?

Felt like a fairly successful BRRRR. I didn't have to leave any money in the deal and I now have the capital to inject into the next deal.

Lessons learned? Challenges?

Finding the right tenant is a process. We had 75 applications come in when we posted the property. It took an extensive amount of time showing the property, vetting potential tenants, and drafting the lease (thank you BP for the PA lease package!).

Did you work with any real estate professionals (agents, lenders, etc.) that you'd recommend to others?

Anjelica Kopsahilis. Would highly recommend her to anyone who is getting started.