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All Forum Posts by: Caleb Jordan

Caleb Jordan has started 16 posts and replied 436 times.

Post: Zillow Loses $80,000,000 Flipping in 3rd Qtr - Yikes!!

Caleb JordanPosted
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Originally posted by @Account Closed:

Well, those brainiacs at Zillow have really got to stop believing their Zestimates. And, they had 70,000 requests for their services.

The CEO was heard to say "We are losing $1,143 on every deal but we'll make it up in volume" ;-)

"Zillow Shares Fall After Forecasting Home-Flipping Losses"


Zillow Group Inc.
shares fell as much as 14% in after-market trading after the company
forecast that its new home-flipping business would lose as much as
$80 million in the third quarter before interest, taxes, depreciation and
amortization.


The company generated $249 million in second-quarter revenue from Zillow
Offers, an algorithm-driven spin on home-flipping, and received
requests from 70,000 consumers who wanted to sell their homes to Zillow
over the internet.

Yikes! I was pretty skeptical of them being able to pull this off from the get go. I wonder how much $80 million is to Zillow though, it might be like might be like 100 bucks to them. Some people have speculated Zillow may do flips at a loss for a while to push competition out. I don't know if that is true or even viable. But certainly an interesting take. 

Post: Have you been denied for hard Money?

Caleb JordanPosted
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Originally posted by @Klaycon Santos:

I want to use hard money for a upper fixer but dont have the ins and outs to get approved. Besides an OK credit what else is needed? I have a property that would be a great equity return before and after repairs/cosmetics. Getting the Hard money would close the deal? Any one with experience can walk me through. Thank you

Usually a HML wants to get a sense of your experience, often credit, and then assets. They will also want to vet any deals you bring them. Each will be a little different in terms of what they exactly need and can do. But it is best to just reach out to a few and ask.

Post: Fix and flip funding

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Originally posted by @Jeff Silka:

I have a house under contract, have a solid credit score, but I can't seem to find any private or hard money loans to use for the house. The purchase price is under 70% of the ARV, the issue I'm having is that this is my first flip, and I don't have $50,000 in liquid assets like a lot of these companies require, I need help. I don't know what to do to get this locked up.......

Without knowing the costs of this it is hard to give any realistic advice. What sort loan to cost or loan to value are lenders offering you.

it is pretty common that lenders want to see 6 months reserves, closing costs, any down payment.

Post: Seller financing and Hard Money

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Originally posted by @Killa Kam:

@Taylor L.

Thank you for the insight. That was going to be my next question. Since HMLs generally go for around 8 months I was wondering how refinancing would work with both the seller finance and HML being on relatively short payback periods.

My end goal was to refinance and cash out both the seller and the HML with a lower interest rate loan from a bank and benefit from the possible built up equity in the properties and use that to invest again. But that's just my goal I haven't sat down with any professionals to crunch the numbers, until I knew that using a HML and seller finance together was a possible feat.

 Most hard money lenders will want to be only lien on property, so most of them are out. There may be some individuals private lenders who would take a 2nd position lien but probably not a company that lends.

You definitely want to think about how you would refinance out of hard money. That might be difficult because you would really end up having no equity in the deal unless there is a major value add somewhere.

Post: Buying with hard money then selling to myself?

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Originally posted by @Akintunde Bakare:

So I’m looking to purchase a home that is need of repairs with a hard money loan. The only difference between me and a lot of the post I see is that I don’t want to flip it I want to actually buy it and turn it into my own personal residence. What would be the best way to go about this as I haven’t seen too many post about it. My plan was to purchase the house under my llc or s Corp and then sell it after being fully renovated to myself after I am approved with a conveniently loan! Is this process legit? Or is there an easier and better way? I always wondered  how individuals were able to find financing for buy and hold properties that don’t qualify under conventional because they need repairs.

Thanks in advance,

If you really want to do that, you could buy with HML and then refinance into a conventional loan once property is fixed up. You would need to make sure you can find a lender that is fine with transfering title out of LLC to your personal name on the refi.

Post: New Member from Houston, Texas

Caleb JordanPosted
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Originally posted by @Michael Navalta:

Hello Everyone! Thanks for taking the time to read my introduction. My name is Michael and I am a new BP member from Houston, Texas.

My wife and I are very excited to begin our Real Estate investment journey! We have established Fresh Start Realty and are looking to do our first (but not last!) Fix and Flip. I've read numerous books and have listened to many podcasts. Most importantly, I recently completed a 10-week REI course with one of my REI mentors. I am also in the process of getting my Real Estate License (whew!).

Any tips would be appreciated! Any local investors?! Lets meet!

Cheers!

Hey Michael, welcome to BP. There a lot of investors in Houston. I'm sure you 'll meet some. The forums are great place to learn a ton. Good luck!

Post: New To BP from Oklahoma City

Caleb JordanPosted
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Originally posted by @Richard Foster:

Just signed-up on BP about a week ago. So far just been browsing the forums to see what kind of information is out there and have been impressed. I’m from Oklahoma City, so wanted to get an idea of what type of investors and people are on here who work in Oklahoma City real estate.

Definitely a variety of people on here from Oklahoma City. I am not in OKC but a fair amount of our business has been investors in that market. I think it is a good place to get into the game and is on track for some solid appreciation and growth.

 I've heard various people compare OKC right now to Dallas/fortworth 5 or 6 years ago. In DFW we saw 4 or 5 years of very good solid appreciation and lots of profitable flipping but now things have really tightened up. The people who got into it several years back were able to do well.

Post: Hard money/private money

Caleb JordanPosted
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Originally posted by @Antonio Martinez:

@Benjamin Hurwitz so tell why is it that you need a personal guarantee if you still need a corporation. And to a hml to an individual is much harder? It doesn’t makes sense to me. I am looking to get a short term hard money loan to obtain and rehab properties.

Typically it is easier to foreclose on property that is owned by LLC. If loan closes in personal name than foreclosing may be harder. Some of may also depend on liscensing laws in varying states. so lender wants a closer look at loans which close in personal name. Many HML won't even lend without incoporation of some sort.

Post: Lenders for investors with only 1 year w2

Caleb JordanPosted
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Originally posted by @Hanah Frickers:

@Caleb Jordan thank you! It will be strictly investment. If you know any such lenders in IL i’d Be glad to hear.

 I don't know of anyone specific in Illinois, I am not too familiar with that market.

Originally posted by @Jay Hinrichs:
Originally posted by @Caleb Jordan:
Originally posted by @Simon Ruiz:

Hello I would like to buy my neighbors house which is anticipated to eventually go to auction ( long story) I could not purchase this property through traditional means therefore, it eventually will become a Deed in Lou of foreclosure.. I would like to purchase this property using a hard-money however, I have noticed that the auctions in my area require that the full payment be made at point of sale... From what I have read Hardmoney lenders require a contract first is this true? What option do I have since I don’t have the full balance at hand??

There are a couple threads on here from people who have seen a HML work with Sherif sales. I'm not too familiar with how that works since we don't do those. There will be only a few HML that would even consider that though.

Now some other sort of auction venue can definitely work with hard money and I see it all the time. So you have figure details of the auction.

this product is common on the west coast especially Oregon and Washington.. its the most profitable of all HML products by far. And if I was still running my traditional HML company this is what I would focus on exclusively.

That is interesting that it is common practice on west coast. I don't of anybody in midwest/east coast that advertises that they do it. I'm sure someone does it though.

How do they structure these loans? Do they ever run into redemption periods etc?