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All Forum Posts by: Caleb Godsey

Caleb Godsey has started 8 posts and replied 24 times.

Post: Tri-Plex Deal or No Deal

Caleb GodseyPosted
  • Austin, TX
  • Posts 24
  • Votes 4
Originally posted by @Joshua Schoer:
@Caleb Godsey

Hi Caleb, sorry don't know the price to do this but worth investigating. I remember researching it in NC for a deal and I think the utility company charged about $1k per meter but could be wrong. Either way look at your rent vs the market rent. If you feel what the current owner is charging excluding utilities is comparable, keep in mind most places don't include utilities, so you might have the ability to charge back some without losing tenants. Look at the current leases, if they are already on month to month might be easier to start this.

Either way, let us know how it goes. Good luck!

Thanks for the help Joshua! I appreciate it. Definitely going to explore my options because that's the one bothersome thing with this property – the utilities. If they were covered by tenants, it would be a done deal. I'm checking comparable properties in the area and most seem to be renting for $850-900. So the $650 tenants are currently paying for may be significantly under valued. 

I'll keep you posted if I purchase the deal, get financials, etc. to let you know what I did and how things go.  

Post: Tri-Plex Deal or No Deal

Caleb GodseyPosted
  • Austin, TX
  • Posts 24
  • Votes 4

@Raul Cesar cortes

I don't believe the units have backyards. It's not in the Austin area but in a decent sized city within a 100 mi radius of Austin. I don't know that I could manage the property on my own. This would be a long distance purchase from where I live.

Post: Tri-Plex Deal or No Deal

Caleb GodseyPosted
  • Austin, TX
  • Posts 24
  • Votes 4

Hi @Bjorn Ahlblad! Could you explain a rent roll to me? Asking for all the financials and leases from my realtor so hopefully I'll see all those this week to know more history about this property. Anything specifically I should be looking for in these docs? Thanks for the tips!

Post: Tri-Plex Deal or No Deal

Caleb GodseyPosted
  • Austin, TX
  • Posts 24
  • Votes 4

@Anthony Wick, the $500 number was from the current owner. She mentioned she pays on an average of $490/month for all three units. I know Texas usually has higher utilities because of the heat...know from experience being an Iowa native myself. (I see you're from Ankeny). 

I think the vacancy will probably be more like 3% or less, but just incase, factoring in the areas average. 

Post: Tri-Plex Deal or No Deal

Caleb GodseyPosted
  • Austin, TX
  • Posts 24
  • Votes 4
Originally posted by @Jared Skov:

Run the numbers on a 15yr loan with 25% down and increased rental rates, you'll get a lower interest rate and increase your chances of FI/RE at a younger age. 

 What's a typical 15 yr rate that you see? Do you know any lenders in the Austin area?

Post: Tri-Plex Deal or No Deal

Caleb GodseyPosted
  • Austin, TX
  • Posts 24
  • Votes 4
Originally posted by @Lucia Rushton:
@Caleb Godsey are you putting anything away for major repairs ?

I don't know if I factored in major repairs, just a monthly maintenance of $90 I believe. CapEx is something I should consider.

Post: Tri-Plex Deal or No Deal

Caleb GodseyPosted
  • Austin, TX
  • Posts 24
  • Votes 4
Originally posted by @Justin A.:

Overall this seems like a great deal. Just missing cap ex. If everything is fine mechanically and no updates are needed I would go ahead with it. Make sure you do your due diligence period to inspect for any upcoming problems 

 In your experience what are some problem areas that you would look for while inspecting the house?

Post: Tri-Plex Deal or No Deal

Caleb GodseyPosted
  • Austin, TX
  • Posts 24
  • Votes 4
Originally posted by @Kyle McKnett:
@Caleb Godsey

Looks like it has the potential to be a good deal. What utilities are you paying? Do the tenants pay any? Have you looked over the leases? Have the tenants been there long term?

I personally calculate vacancy at 10% and repairs at 5%

 I'll need to get a copy of the lease and financials. This is a good reminder to make sure I do more due diligence. I believe electricity & water are what I would be paying. Supposedly rent is higher than usual because utilities are included. 

As far as rental period, not quite sure how long the tenants have been there, although historically because of several churches in the area, the home generally has a very low, if any vacancy rate. But the area in general is about 8% vacancy, which is where I got that number.

Post: Tri-Plex Deal or No Deal

Caleb GodseyPosted
  • Austin, TX
  • Posts 24
  • Votes 4
Originally posted by @Joshua Schoer:

Just a thought, is it possible to install separate meters so that the tenants can pay their own utilities?  If so, would be a pretty good deal IMHO.  If not, perhaps you can build in a bill back for their share of the utilities instead of increasing the rent?

 So I'm curious if you know average costs of this. My guess is that it's a bit pricey to do this and potentially not worth the investment but it is something I've thought about. I believe rent factors in the fact that landlord pays for utilities, so I think rent would have to go down a bit if they paid for utilities. Kinda evening things out probably.

Any additional thoughts or experience with situations like this?

Post: Tri-Plex Deal or No Deal

Caleb GodseyPosted
  • Austin, TX
  • Posts 24
  • Votes 4

Hello BP Community!

I'm just getting started in reel estate. Been ramping up on education & learning as much as I can over the past 4-5 months. I'm starting to settle in on a specific property and this one came across my lap today. I understand everyone has different opinions and there are lots of variables in real estate, but I'm trying to familiarize myself with what a good deal looks like. 

Here's the numbers, curious everyones thoughts on if they would/wouldn't take the deal and why/why not.

Tri-Plex

Listed for $130,000, verbal offer that they would accept at $110,000

Rental Income

Unit A: $650

Unit B: $650

Unit C: $650

Total All Units: $1950

Expenses

Mortgage: $500/mo (20% downpayment, conventional 30-year fixed loan @ 5.5%)

Property Management: $195/mo

Vacancy (8%): $156/mo

Property Tax: $150/mo

Maintenance: $90/mo

Utilities: $500/mo

Insurance: $90/mo

So by my estimation, it's cash flowing for about $270/month. Realtor says the rent is kinda low and could charge about $700 per unit, but I'm trying to be conservative with the numbers. What are your thoughts on this and what realistic things could make this a better deal?