I appreciate the welcome, better late than never. At this time I'm just kind of gathering info trying to determine the best plan of attack, its crazy out here right now prices keep dropping, I would'nt even think of investing out here right now no end in sight, so just trying to determine if something out of state is in option or just be patient and raise funds.The painting biz is pretty good right now, for me at least, but just about everyone else is getting killed, lots of contractors with no work, some for months now, to bad a lot of good guys. I went through the same thing 2 years ago, 8 months with almost nothing, got hit first because I was doing repairs for water damage/ mold on new homes for big devolopers ( D.R. Horton, Meritage, Richmond American), unfortunatly too many eggs in one basket, but I've regrouped and things are pretty good right now, still could'nt stop a foreclosure on my primary residence, no work and massive medical bills is a bad combo :violin: .So for now I'm lurking, no more bills, debt free and getting ready for action.