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All Forum Posts by: Butch Greene

Butch Greene has started 8 posts and replied 35 times.

Post: Buying a friend's townhome?

Butch GreenePosted
  • Fletcher, NC
  • Posts 35
  • Votes 22
Quote from @Ryan Davies:

I would buy it creatively on seller financing and find a win-win. Will save you a ton of money and you just have to solve any problem he has with down payment on something else, etc. Happy to strategize with you.


When you seller finance a property, what are the lender required holding period and other stipulations to refinance out of the seller finance? Seasoning?   
I assume if we could do seller financing, she'll immediately want to buy something where she moves to in less time than we have to get it refi-ed at the improved value.

Post: Renter placed my property on airbnb

Butch GreenePosted
  • Fletcher, NC
  • Posts 35
  • Votes 22

If you rent the other side out, maybe read through the AirBNB terms you agree to as owner to see if that "rumored" remedy is valid.

Post: Renter placed my property on airbnb

Butch GreenePosted
  • Fletcher, NC
  • Posts 35
  • Votes 22
Quote from @Kendall Moore:

Just to give an update. Airbnb is not giving much help. They state that they're an online platform and does not verify private contracts or arbitrate complaints from third parties. I am continuing to go through their host department. 


 Then may want to pursue the option I was told of renting it for a 2 day stay & then reporting (as the AirBNB tenant) that you caught the owner in the unit when you came back from dinner rifling your belongings.  A friend who has an AirBNB was shut down for this by a spiteful renter who they had to evict due to a huge party until he could prove eviction for cause.

Post: Renter placed my property on airbnb

Butch GreenePosted
  • Fletcher, NC
  • Posts 35
  • Votes 22
Quote from @Kendall Moore:
Quote from @Rick Bassett:

@Kendall Moore - what I would do is rent the Airbnb from him as a guest, then squat in it and refuse leave and make him evict me.

Rent it. File a complaint with AirBNB that you caught the host rummaging through your suitcase when you came back.  They will LOCK it out then if you report it as a verified guest. 

Post: Renter placed my property on airbnb

Butch GreenePosted
  • Fletcher, NC
  • Posts 35
  • Votes 22
Quote from @Chris Seveney:

@Kendall Moore

Book the rental for yourself then go to it and evict the tenant.

I would screw with them first by asking for all these requests during your stay


 Actually an "in between" strategy is to have a friend or family member rent it from the old man, tell you when they are in the unit, then walk in and have your friend take a pic of you "entering the unit" while they're there.  

Not sure if this strategy is true, but I was told if the AirBNB guest reports the owner as having entered the unit without the guests permission/knowledge (stalking), AirBNB automatically shuts the listing down.

Post: Renter placed my property on airbnb

Butch GreenePosted
  • Fletcher, NC
  • Posts 35
  • Votes 22

Notifying AirBNB would end the problem immediately. He can't violate the lease without them.

Post: Renter placed my property on airbnb

Butch GreenePosted
  • Fletcher, NC
  • Posts 35
  • Votes 22
Quote from @Kendall Moore:
Quote from @Theresa Harris:

If the tenant is violating the lease, then yes you need to talk to him and tell him to stop and start the eviction process.  Also 70 is not that old for most people. I know many people in their 80s and 90s who have no problem with stairs.


I did not mean anything about his age. I just notice the person is 73 years man old yet I’ve only saw a young couple maybe in the 20s. So I know it’s not the person on the lease 

Then what is likely happening is his kids are using his good credit to get themselves an AirBnB property without doing what you did...buy it.  Notify AirBNB that the property is fraudulent. It will immediately be blocked. AirBNB will actually lock out rentals if renters report the owner for violation of privacy. This is likely an easier fix for you to block his shady kids out of renting. It's fraud.

Notify the tenant you're conducting an interior inspection this week, go in, take a photo of yourself inside the unit and submit it with your request to AirBNB to shut it down.  Make sure there is a date/time stamp.

Post: Renter placed my property on airbnb

Butch GreenePosted
  • Fletcher, NC
  • Posts 35
  • Votes 22
Quote from @Kendall Moore:

Hi I have a multi-family2 unit property in Houston, Tx . Not sure what or if I should do anything. I use one side for an airbnb myself. I rent the other unit out. I have a renter, the gentleman that was listed is in his 70s. I thought it was strange for a 70 year man to want a 3 bedroom 2 bath unit with all of the bathroom being on the second floor. I rented the place to him because he met the requirement for the rental income. I have since notice that he had not once visit the property (a younger couple comes by) and I now see the unit listed on airbnb. In the lease agreement it states the property is to be use for personal use by the renter only. I will say that the unit I placed on airbnb does not make more than what I could rent the unit. I am concern that my unit will have to compete for listing on airbnb with a unit I plan to rent out. Should I say anything to the renter or just let it be as long as they pay the rent every month. I plan to stop airbnb my unit next soon and likely will rent it out. 


 Does your insurance policy cover sub-leased rentals? Answer is no. The old man is dodging the general liability of owning a rental and putting the financial burden on you.  If a claim arises from his sub-let, you'll get zero Loss of Income and your claim entirely can be denied.

He's paying maybe $250 yr for a renters insurance policy that will cover him for loss of property/theft. Anyone renting out property should have a short term rental insurance policy to cover losses incurred, vacancy between renters and protect you from liability.  

Claims can pull historical records of AirBNB, find this guy renting it out and deny you for any loss, say if the whole place went up.

Quote from @Leon Lee:

Hello everyone,

I wanted to provide you with an update. I have found another insurance broker who confirmed that “Seasonal” is not the same as “short-term rentals”. Additionally, since my property is a quad, they do not write on small multifamily properties. I appreciate all the helpful information you provided, and I have decided to go with another company. I am now using Farmers Insurance, which outsources short-term rentals and small multifamily insurance to another company. Although they are expensive (still more affordable than Proper though), they paid for hail damage on my roof last year.

Best regards, Lee

As an FYI...Farmers and ForeMost Choice have the same parent company.