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All Forum Posts by: Jordan L.

Jordan L. has started 11 posts and replied 50 times.

Post: How would you invest $5 million in real estate?

Jordan L.Posted
  • Investor
  • Newbury Park, CA
  • Posts 80
  • Votes 19

How about a basket of REITs?

Post: What real estate moves create certainty?

Jordan L.Posted
  • Investor
  • Newbury Park, CA
  • Posts 80
  • Votes 19

We live in uncertain times correct? So what moves will make the future seem more certain or stable?

1. Buying below market value, that gives you a cushion if you have to sell, but you still have to sell, and the market can move on you.
2. Having a fixed mortgage. That way you know from month to month how much you're going to have to pay.
3. Paying off the mortgage. While this move doesn't enhance your growth potential, you're likely to get a constant stream of income without having to worry about a mortgage.
4. Having in homeowner's insurance.
5. Selling a property. This might be against the goal of growing a RE portfolio, but if the property is a liability, selling it may seal off a money drain.

What else?

Post: Is my uncle a RE investor?

Jordan L.Posted
  • Investor
  • Newbury Park, CA
  • Posts 80
  • Votes 19
Originally posted by Mat Lewczenko:
Why does the "title" matter to you so much?

If you admire and respect his finacial position then great(I admire his position, and hope to be in a similar position too).

I follow Buffet and Gates, for their insight into business and finance, but I'm not trying to be a "Programer" or "Fund Manager", I'm just trying to be the best "Me" that I can be.

I think Will has a great point, you can be involved in many different things, the titles matter least. I'm sure your uncle could care less what you call him.

He probably calls himself "at ease".

I guess the question to ask yourself, is what does "RE investor" mean to you, personally. This will be very important in setting your goals ahead, especially if you want to be a full time investor yourself. If your uncle doesn't fit in that definition, does that weaken his accomplishements? I would think the answer would be, no.

I think this post is good, especially for you to be able to find out your big "why".
Just my opinion though. I would pick your uncles brain for all the things he did right, and especially for what he thoght he did wrong.

That's a good question. I guess, I'm trying to get affirmation on my own strategy. I'm certainly not getting anywhere close to the 2% or 50% guidelines as recommended by the RE investors here. More than a few suggestions to sell of my existing portfolio have been made and to start to over. As a newbie, I appreciate the advice. If my investments are bad, they're bad and I'm glad people here can teach me something. That's why I'm here. But selling an investment to me is not like going to my etrade account and clicking a few buttons. It takes quite a bit of steering to right this ship. But before this board, my only example of RE investors(they were all full time engineers) are my relatives who were all passive investors and basically bought one property and paid it off, but are now doing well. Thus I have fashioned a similar model in hopes of replicating their results, with hopefully a few multiples.

Post: Is my uncle a RE investor?

Jordan L.Posted
  • Investor
  • Newbury Park, CA
  • Posts 80
  • Votes 19
Originally posted by Will Barnard:
There are two kinds of investors (RE or otherwise) and they are: 1. Active investors and 2. Passive investors.
In case 1. (as I am), I operate a full time (can be part time) RE investment company in which I buy many properties. These investments are the main source of my income. In case 2, a passive investor relies on others to do the daily operations of the business, they only invest their capital and let the others do the work.

That said, if a person buyes one home and rents it out, I would not classify them as a RE investor. They have one RE investMENT.
I own some stock, but I would not classify myself as a stock investor.

What if at the time that he bought his primary residence he also bought the 2 other similar homes in the neighborhood and hired a PM to manage them. He didn't see positive cashflow for the first 10 years, but now is receiving his windfall(3 properties paid off receiving 9k net a month). Now mind you, he had a well paying job and never intended RE to be his full time gig. 2 questions:
1. Is he an RE investor now?
2. Did he make a good investment?

Post: Dealing with entirely females with my REO purchase.

Jordan L.Posted
  • Investor
  • Newbury Park, CA
  • Posts 80
  • Votes 19
Originally posted by Steve Babiak:
Originally posted by Jordan L.:
Realtor. Female
Property manager. Female
her asst. Female.
Mortgage broker. Female.
her loan processor. Female
Escrow officer. Female.
her partner covering during vacation. Female.
Homeowner's insurance agent. Female.
Home inspector. Female
Home appraiser. Female.

If it were 50/50 for each position the odds of this would be 1/1032. ...

The time for you to find a FEMALE to do your arithmetic has arrived; the denominator in the fraction you gave should be 2 raised to the tenth power, which happens to be 1024. Any computer geek could rattle that one off for you too.

Whoops. My bad.

Post: Dealing with entirely females with my REO purchase.

Jordan L.Posted
  • Investor
  • Newbury Park, CA
  • Posts 80
  • Votes 19
Originally posted by Joshua Dorkin:
What's your point, Jordan?

Trying to turn an observation into a little joke at the expense of men. Looking at the response I'm getting, it failed sorry for any offense.

2 years ago, more women matriculated into my field of work for the first time ever. I welcome this change cause in my field of work, you definitely want the most qualified person doing the work.

Post: Dealing with entirely females with my REO purchase.

Jordan L.Posted
  • Investor
  • Newbury Park, CA
  • Posts 80
  • Votes 19

Realtor. Female
Property manager. Female
her asst. Female.
Mortgage broker. Female.
her loan processor. Female
Escrow officer. Female.
her partner covering during vacation. Female.
Homeowner's insurance agent. Female.
Home inspector. Female
Home appraiser. Female.

If it were 50/50 for each position the odds of this would be 1/1032. The time where men's function in society will mainly be sperm donor and jar opener is fast upon us.

Post: Have One ARM in Your Loan Portfolio?

Jordan L.Posted
  • Investor
  • Newbury Park, CA
  • Posts 80
  • Votes 19
Originally posted by Bryan Hancock:
Eh...I still like the ARM scenario described personally. If the loan is only recast past year 10 you don't enjoy more cash flow from years 1-10 using the IO loan.

It is a good thought for certain scenarios though. I would be interested to learn about who is doing these loans if they still exist.

I think the only comforting thought of this hypothetical loan is that the rate stays fixed. Who knows in 10 years inflation could be a realistic issue.

Post: Have One ARM in Your Loan Portfolio?

Jordan L.Posted
  • Investor
  • Newbury Park, CA
  • Posts 80
  • Votes 19
Originally posted by Bryan Hancock:
The trouble is that those loans likely come with an interest premium too. ARMs will start out with lower payments. The right product really depends on what you are trying to do.

Who is doing 10-year recast IO loans right now?


I don't anyone doing this loan. My mortgage broker sure wasn't. But if this loan did exist, I'd consider it. Cause then prepaying the mortgage would have a benefit if at year 5,7,10 years by potentially improving your cash flow if that's your goal. Or if you're like me turn a negative liability into a positive one.

Post: Have One ARM in Your Loan Portfolio?

Jordan L.Posted
  • Investor
  • Newbury Park, CA
  • Posts 80
  • Votes 19
Originally posted by Bryan Hancock:
I am not sure if they exist, but my understanding was that those used to have 10-year balloons too. I am not sure what happens on the prepayment on those notes. Do you just pay interest only on a decreased mortgage balance or does the money go into escrow and get adjusted periodically?

My understanding is that the loan recasts at year 10. So if you if you're only paying interest for 10 years, then you're payment is going to skyrocket. But if you're judiciously paying down the mortgage with extra prepayments, at year 10, your mortgage could go down. Sort of like a free refi at year 10 into a 20 year fixed mortgage.