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All Forum Posts by: Joel Block

Joel Block has started 4 posts and replied 38 times.

Post: Structuring Real Estate Multifamily Deals for Outside Investors

Joel BlockPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Agoura Hills, CA
  • Posts 55
  • Votes 66

If you would like to discuss this topic, you are welcome to be in touch with me.
Thanks,
Joel

Post: 100 % FINANCING

Joel BlockPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Agoura Hills, CA
  • Posts 55
  • Votes 66

Jeff - very well put. The experienced syndicator brings two big components to the transaction. The first is basic deal sense and for that, the syndicator (promoter or in the new CrowdFunding parlance - the issuer) is paid fees for services such as brokerage, property management, project management and other types of oversight that require time and personal attention. Secondly and hopefully bigger - is the unique sense for special opportunities that a true investment professional sees which others do not. For that, the syndicator receives a "carried interest" or back end split which can be 10% to 50% of the profits. Real estate deals are not based on percentage of ownership like venture transactions. Rather they function on shares of profits because there is not the same potential "lift" or growth in enterprise value like in stocks. If the syndicator picks a great deal, he or she can make a lot but if the project is not so great, there may not be any back end to share. We need both components - not just the fees and not just the speculative back end. The business model works and it has been used successfully for over 40 years. Do not assume that 100% of cash equals 100% of stock. The cash does receive "first money" which protects the risk of the investors.

Post: Proper Accounting For Return on Time Versus Return on Capital

Joel BlockPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Agoura Hills, CA
  • Posts 55
  • Votes 66

Paying yourself is a very good solution - and it makes for much more accurate information.

Post: Is Your Capital Working? Or Are You Working?

Joel BlockPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Agoura Hills, CA
  • Posts 55
  • Votes 66

Interesting that you bring this up. Many calculations surrounding returns are based on fancy financial mathematics and university style formulas, but those of us who are in the trenches know that it is critical to separate two entirely different realities.

First there is deployed v. not deployed capital. Serious investors only care about what they get - and for that to be maximized, their funds have to be deployed.

Second, there are passive and active investors. Most money made in traditional investments such as stocks, bonds, commodities, and mutual funds are always passive, so 3% ROI means 3% ROI. Real estate is one of the few investments where the capital is super-charged by the efforts of the investor.

For some players, this can be great, but when evaluating the result, the investor has to remember to remove themselves from the equation to see how much the money returned. 20% returns are easy when one is working in the deal (meaning that the money didn't really return that amount by itself) but there is a very strict limit on how much an investor can make when they are contributing capital.

It is not necessarily better to be active or passive - as long as the investor is aware what the basis is for making the money. Just remember that wealthy people put the money to work because they know that their personal efforts are strictly limited in the amount that can be produced.

Post: Anyone paying realtors to bird dog?

Joel BlockPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Agoura Hills, CA
  • Posts 55
  • Votes 66

Part of the secret to succeeding in the acquisition, wholesaling or flipping of homes is becoming an expert buyer of these properties. As you add brokers and finders, your profits begin to erode. People who are in the business of brokering properties wouldn't likely work for the low price that a bird dog is typically paid but it doesn't hurt to ask.

I like Michael's concept of mailing to owners of properties, or you can have someone working on your side. But it is hard to imagine that it will be a licensed real estate professional.

Post: What is Your Worst Property Management Nightmare?

Joel BlockPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Agoura Hills, CA
  • Posts 55
  • Votes 66

All of us who manage property have dealt with unimaginable circumstances: tenants can drive us crazy and vendors can test our patience. What are some of the craziest, weirdest or most shocking experiences that you have had in the management of your properties? :roll:

Post: LLC Tax Question

Joel BlockPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Agoura Hills, CA
  • Posts 55
  • Votes 66

Acquiring an LLC or other entity takes your responsibility up several notches and at the time, your expenses will go up too. It is a horrific mistake to "do-it-yourself" in the formation of the LLC and doing the taxes without the watchful eye of someone who knows what they are doing could subject you to IRS penalties, interest and further scrutiny.

Jon is right that you can no longer file an EZ return. Do not take tax advice from people on this site who "think" they know. The law is very serious and structuring a proper vehicle for tax avoidance and asset protection is likewise complex. This website is not the best place for advice on these matters - unless it is coming from an attorney or CPA - and even then it will not be advice, it will be basic information that is not about your particular situation.

Good luck.

Post: First deal and tenant is a drug dealer!

Joel BlockPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Agoura Hills, CA
  • Posts 55
  • Votes 66

Don't you just love managing rental property! JGB

Post: Landlord charged with attempted murder in forklift attack

Joel BlockPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Agoura Hills, CA
  • Posts 55
  • Votes 66

The landlord business is hard and it can really test one's patience. If you can't control yourself, find a different way to make money.

Post: Recomendations for SDIRA Custodian???

Joel BlockPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Agoura Hills, CA
  • Posts 55
  • Votes 66

Kaaren will provide excellent customer service to you. This is a good move for your money because the administrator doesn't make commissions on the purchases you make. Companies like Fidelity prohibit real estate transactions because they don't make money on them.