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All Forum Posts by: Boris Mordkovich

Boris Mordkovich has started 2 posts and replied 55 times.

@Jon Crosby So our experience with Uplisting has generally been very good. We've tested out a handful of channel management tools before settling on this one. In addition to all of the regular functionality that we use Uplisting for, we also connect it with Zapier and then feed the reservations data into a couple of other apps. Honestly, we've had 0 issues with their API to date.

As far as email parsing goes, we've also experimented with a number of tools before going with Parseur. Same thing here -- since setting it up, we really haven't had to change the parsing emails much at all. It's been surprisingly reliable.

Love your blueprints! Great way to visualize the process!

@Justin Anderson Good question re: owners portal. We haven't had to cross that bridge, as we own the properties or work with partners & investors on ours, so we just do more standard P&L statements generated from QuickBooks.

All in all, I wholeheartedly agree that there are some amazing tools out there that allow a non-coder to build out a really robust backend to their real estate STR business. This is part of why we like short-term rentals for our own direction -- as you can really gain an edge if you can get the backend technology set up well.

@John Underwood Hey John, yep - most of these tools have a variable pricing model that charges you per listing. For example, Smartbnb, Uplisting, Pricelabs all charge a small monthly fee per listing. Then tools like Zapier and Parseur also have different plans depending on the volume. All in all, you'd pay less with fewer listings and more with more of them.

For us, we started using many of these tools from Day 1 but really started to focus on automation and building out a full system after around 3 properties. The way we saw it is that it's worth setting up a good foundation even when the number of properties is small. If a $30-40/mo tool can help us save a few hours of work per month and make things more efficient, it's typically worth it to us.

Hey everyone.

My name is Boris - over the last few years, my wife and I have built up a portfolio of properties in a handful of cities around the country that we run as short-term and mid-term rentals. 

As we both come from tech backgrounds, our core focus from Day 1 was to try to figure out how we can most effectively streamline the operations and automate as many of the functions as we can. We wanted to keep this as something that we could do in addition to our other work responsibilities and commitments, rather than becoming a full-time job in it of itself.

After 4 years of experimenting with various tools and building out our own processes, I think we’ve got a pretty good system going and I figured that it may be helpful to others who are also thinking about building out and scaling their own short-term rentals. 

So below, I’ll just break down what we do exactly and which tools we’re using to host thousands of guests per year -- while doing it remotely and juggling other full-time work responsibilities.

Automating The Operations:

Guest Communication Automation via Smartbnb - we currently automate about 90% of all guest communication utilizing a tool called Smartbnb. This is a tool that we started using virtually from day 1 and it’s been a game-changer for us. Between automating check-in and check-out communication and sending instructions and reminders to the guests, it can also answer common questions automatically, leave reviews, and much more. There are a handful of tools on the market that do the same thing, but we've been extremely happy with Smartbnb. It easily performs a job of a full-time person (if we had to do it manually). Our cost: $260/mo

Channel Management via Uplisting - as we promote our listings across multiple channels (Airbnb, VRBO, Booking.com), we use Uplisting to manage all of the calendars and pricing. It helps prevent double booking, update prices quickly and consistently across channels. Especially this year, with travel dynamics changing so much, we've found that it's really worth it to go beyond a single platform (e.g. Airbnb) and experiment with other channels. So this tool makes it really easy. Also, worth noting that we use Uplisting to actually provide our housekeepers with a real-time calendar of check ins and check outs, so they can easily plan their workloads. Our cost: $270/mo.

Price Management via Pricelabs - we manage pricing for our listings using Pricelabs which adjusts the prices depending on the demand and the pricing rules we set up. It helps to maximize both revenue and occupancy and does it all fairly automatically. We've experimented with a handful of tools for this task, including UseWheelhouse and BeyondPricing, but found this one to be the most robust one. Their interface isn't great, but the functionality is. Our cost: $80/mo.

Data Feed Email via GSuite - we have setup a central email account to which we feed information and emails from all of our marketing channels and accounts. Once emails land in the inbox, we then use filters to sort the emails, organize them accordingly in different folders, and then push them out to the next step (which we'll cover below). Our cost: $20/mo (could be free with just a regular account).

Email Parsing via Parseur.com - unfortunately, the platforms - like Airbnb - don't do a great job at providing exportable data to their hosts, so a lot of the information that we want to organize and measure comes in via emails. As it does, we then use a tool called Parseur to parse those emails and extract the data that we need. Once the data is extracted, we can then push it into a database, send a message in Slack with it, or slice and dice it in any way we want. For example, we can extract the Reviews data from review emails, Reservation data from New Reservation emails, Payout data from various Payout emails and then feed it into other apps or databases. Our cost: $59/mo.

Automation via Zapier.com - this is a pretty amazing tool that allows us to connect different applications together. For example, we can use Zapier to connect Parseur.com’s email parsing with Google Sheets or other database tools (we use Airtable). So, all of the information that we extract from emails, we can then push into a database where it gets further organized and available for review. Alternatively, sometimes we also extract the information and forward it to specific channels in Slack which allows us to keep a finger on the overall pulse of a business. Our cost: $49/mo

Communication via Slack - we use Slack for all of the internal communication with our virtual team and on-the-ground team (housekeepers and maintenance). While any tool can technically do the job (we’ve used WhatsApp for a while previously), Slack helps us take it to the next level. In addition to regular communication, we can set up automatic reminders for team members, integrate various forms, and even connect it with other apps. For example, we have a bi-weekly reminder that will go out to all of our housekeepers to have them submit the supply order requests. They just click a link and fill out a form indicating what they need. Once completed, it alerts our team and feeds into a central database for tracking purposes. Our cost: $45/mo.

Data Organization via Airtable - a good way to think of Airtable is as Google Sheets on steroids. It can do what Google Sheets does and then a whole lot more. We use it to track team’s payments, maintenance requests, supply order requests, claims with Airbnb and a whole lot more. We have data fed into Airtable from Parseur, from Slack and from other apps, where it then gets automatically sorted and organized, so we can easily run reports and act on it in whatever ways we need. Our cost: Free (we're using their free version).

In Conclusion:

All in all, these tools really make the day-to-day operations of our business much simpler. While we do spend about $800 per month on all of these tools, they collectively automate every manual process and make it much easier to add additional properties and scale without dramatically increasing our workload.

Hope this is helpful to others. I'd love to hear what tools other folks are using and what systems they've built up for their short-term rental business. If anyone has any questions about anything covered above, feel free to reply below or send me a message :)

Thanks!

Post: Challanges of renting on Airbnb

Boris MordkovichPosted
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In our case, we have about ~35 listings and we handle everything internally.

We automate a lot - ranging from guest communication to price management to reporting and everything in between. Then, we have a team of 2 folks that help us coordinate the day-to-day work, respond to some guest inquiries, and coordinate the operations on the ground with our housekeepers and maintenance. While management companies have their place, it wouldn’t work for us for a few reasons:

1. Many of them charge 25% or more of gross revenue. Unfortunately, this would oftentimes eat up the entire profit margin of the short-term rental listings. So while it is hands-off, it’s just not profitable.

2. We prefer to maintain control over pricing and guest experience. The only way to do it effectively is by managing things in-house.

3. As we grow the operations and scale further, having an in-house operation becomes a key element of our business. It makes it easier to onboard new properties, maximize profitability, and run things smoothly.

It’s interesting too. When you just have a couple of properties, it’s actually pretty easy to manage everything yourself - especially if you use tools like Smartbnb, Pricelabs, etc. - to automate most of the work. But when you add additional ones, it becomes a headache to manage it yourself but it’s also too expensive to hire a management company. So, this oftentimes leads to needing to build out an internal team.

Post: Airbnb Picking a Location

Boris MordkovichPosted
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So, there are certainly lots of ways to go about it. Personally, the way we look at an area is using the following criteria: 

- We look at Airdna and typically prefer areas (zip codes, neighborhoods) that have at least 75 other listings there. In our view, we want it to be a popular area and we think we can outcompete the competition vs. being in an area where there is little supply and demand. 

- Our model oftentimes focuses on renting private bedrooms during the weekdays and renting out the entire property during the weekend. This allows us to keep occupancy rates higher. However, this model usually works better in urban areas where there are people traveling for non-leisure reasons (hospitals, work, universities, etc.).

- You do not have to be in a downtown area to be successful. In fact, it’s perfectly fine to be a couple of miles away from the city core where the property prices are going to be more reasonable. That said, it’s just important to pick a neighborhood that has a pleasant vibe to it. If it’s walkable, has a couple of coffee shops or restaurants nearby, etc., then it’s going to leave a pleasant impression on your guests.

- Lastly, it’s worth highlighting that with COVID, everything is upside down right now. Urban areas that traditionally benefited from business travel are doing worse now, whereas rural areas with no specific destination in mind can do much better as people are looking for areas to get away. So this is just something to keep in mind as you’re considering the area and the audience.

Hi Amit, 

Generally speaking, a second home needs to meet a few requirements:

1. It needs to be some distance from the primary residence. In other words, you can’t get a 2nd home in a city where you live.

2. There needs to be some justification to the lender on how you intend to use the 2nd home for your own. That said, it’s not against the rules (usually) to rent out your property when you’re not using it. As long as you communicate to your lender that you intend to use the property as your second home and then you plan to rent it when you’re not there, it should be OK. In fact, it’s even easier to justify it with short-term rentals because if you indicate that you plan to rent it out to someone long-term, that would obviously prevent you from being able to use it as a second home. 

Lastly, it’s worth mentioning that some lenders will be more lenient than others. So if one lender wants to classify it as an investment property, you may still want to try it with another lender.

It’s certainly possible that the numbers have a big difference between each year.

However, even forgetting the difference itself, I’d be cautious.

$24K/year is pretty low for a short term rental as your costs tend to be quite a bit higher than for long term rental.

It’d be difficult to make a decision regarding this property without seeing the expense side of things, but — of this limited information - it’s hard to see how it’d be profitable.

It’s also worth looking at tools like Airdna or AllTheRooms to see how the competition performs in this market!

    We host folks for over 30 days frequently. This year, Airbnb has actually made a very big push into 30+ day rentals and many hosts pivoted to this model. Fundamentally, the main difference is that if someone books for 30+ days, you also want to send them and have them sign a lease.
    Most Airbnb guests won’t have any problems with that. Alternatively, yes - you can try to adjust the stay duration, limit it to <29 days and so on. But it seems easier to just do a lease and be done with it.

Post: SA short term rental

Boris MordkovichPosted
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  • While I don’t have a ton of direct experience with mobile homes, there are a few important things to consider.
  • Best way to get the answer is to test this out. List the property on Airbnb, set up “manual approval” and see what happens.You’ll find out who’s inquiring, how long the average stay duration requests are, and what people are willing to pay for it.
  • At the right price, there is always a market for accommodations. So I have no doubts that you can find demand. The only question is if the pricing makes sense to you to do the extra work and coordination.
  • So basically, if the mobile home is already furnished, just clean it up, take some professional photos and list it and you can make a decision later whether it makes sense for you — once you see the data and level of inquiries.

Post: Retreat House upstate NY

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  • Hi there,
  • Any specific questions? Depending on that, we can offer a recommendation or some advice.