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All Forum Posts by: Bryce Nurding

Bryce Nurding has started 10 posts and replied 33 times.

Originally posted by @Dave Spooner:

@Bryce Nurding The economies of scale will be far outpaced by the work you can do while you're stationed in OKC. I'd start there. If you need to in the future, you can always sell them and 1031 to some Florida properties.

 Thanks for your response. I believe you are correct. If I end up with too many too spread out I can 1031... Sweat equity is a much faster path to equity too...

Hello. 

I own two properties in Florida. Now stationed in OKC (military).

I intend to buy more properties. Originally firm on only buying in Florida so that I have economies of scale with rental management, more simplicity in life as I'd be dealing with fewer contractors, management companies, disasters...

Problem is I can grow faster investing where I am now. Aside from 0 down financing as active duty... Can get sweat equity. Have diversification being in multiple markets... See long term potential in my area in OKC. Will be here several years...

thoughts?

What does one buy nowadays? Crypto, stocks, houses, cars, skateboards, balloons, dogs, even the very USD... Everything expensive. We all have to accept that there will be a year of reckoning when our net worths will plummet on paper. Be prepared for it... And continue saving/investing with a plan. 

Anyway sorry if I'm coming off extremely negative and rude. Maybe I just am. Kind of playing devil's advocate. This place has significant problems and is investible. But you have to be very careful. I'd highly recommend a visit before throwing money into it. Also we need to take action NOW to improve it. I don't think it has improved since I moved here. I honestly have come to believe it is inevitable that humans will kill themselves since moving here. I mean it really is incredibly dangerous for no reason other than poor planning. People don't need to be so poor. So isolated. Get hit by things all the time. Especially those that need help the most. The underinvested communities in Pensacola suffer the most from the suburban culture. 

Why would he suggest you stay east of I 10 if he disagrees with me? Also, my five mile thing is a rough generalization. The white flight appears to be ending on the surface. Not a currently happening event. That said soon as you hit A street heading west OR Cervantes heading north things drop off extremely fast and that is caused from what was or maybe still is white flight.  These are not safe areas. Basically not in America anymore unless you are from south. 

I just get tired of people defending this place. Can we at least acknowledge that even east hill needs a lot of work? It's really quite hazardous outside even in that area. You have to wait five minutes to cross some of the minor roads on foot and very basic infrastructure is often missing. Can we stop pretending it's normal and fix it. 

All the real estate I own is in Pensacola and I'm continuing to invest here. But by no means am I overly optimistic. Just easy for it to get better. Here is one of the booming areas Matt Jones is referring to. Now they actually decided to build a sidewalk and crosswalk here on one side of the road. An occasion that merits cheering in Pensacola. Take a good look at the photo though. Look at how poorly this job was done. Wait... The sidewalk terminates at a ninety degree angle from the crosswalk? It goes nowhere. Now I need you to understand, being out of state. First, probably ten percent of all roads here have a sidewalk ON ONE SIDE. Probably half of those are of a quality better than this. 

Yes there are a few new structures going up, often again without parking and basic infrastructure, to be close to the three blocks of Pensacola called downtown that are actually suitable for human habitation. These homes are way overpriced and there is not enough people who can afford to rent them for what they are worth. Also let's ignore the other 99 percent of the land area of and around Pensacola that perfectly fits my description. Widening nine mile is bringing all this dandy investment to that road, just as widening W did, or Palafox, or Cervantes, many years ago. But it's all just crap drive though chains and eventually nine mile with join the long list of hellish stroads that plaque Pensacola. Also another county controlled region with no urban planning. I rode my bicycle six miles from my house to Seville last night. About five and a half miles of that were through uninhabitable wasteland that is hardly second world. Even one block off Palafox downtown there is significant commercial vacancy. Even on Palafox itself which is a limited place where it's safe outside from cars and shootings you get people that think everybody wants to listen to their car exhaust and music on full blast. Why wasn't all this nine mile investment on Cervantes, W, north Palafox? Because they are too rundown and investors are starting over further out. Cervantes, W, North Palafox are this five mile ring you seem to want to deny exists. Yes you can cherry pick a couple neighborhoods that seem to be improving all day. 

Here is everything you might not know about Pensacola being out of state:

White flight out of anything within five miles of downtown core. Very very bad neighborhoods. Some investment coming there. But only some. You will see many homes intentionally burnt down to collect insurance.

Lots of suburbs built without basic infrastructure as it would be imposing on people's rights to require them to follow basic building codes. 

This causes new suburbs to be built further and further out from urban core. 

Very high crime and large uneducated population. Not in that they haven't graduated high school but in that they are entirely unproductive members of society that are actually higher destructive.

Very high cancer rate in Pensacola from the type of limited industry it has attracted through time. The drinking water is also no good here. Very large portion of city actually just on septic as part of basic infrastructure package.

That shiny new townhome will look like the rest of Pensacola very soon because the weather will rip it apart. The insurance company will take a year to fix it many times. Hopefully they actually send you a competent contractor. This depends of the competency of your unpaid HOA president.

If this townhome has no HOA, then several of the connected units will fall into complete abandonment and disrepair. Very weak communities in Pensacola. The reality is Ensley is very rundown. People will try to defend it. There's no benefit to living anywhere in Pensacola other than it's not insert other rundown place. Eastern side of town on original street grid where you have some actual elevation would be my recommendation. Gulf Shores also nice. But don't do Gulf Shores. It gets cut off from the rest of the city very often. It's also built on land that belongs to nature. They are nice because they will almost match the level of basic services you expect out of an area of 500,000 people in the United States. There will be parks, sidewalks, trendy shops (kind of). Unique building designs others than what's cheapest. Some semblance of a community.

Much of street grid is awfully run down or overpriced for what you get and if you are off street grid you are in automobile dependant sprawl with no zoning laws or urban planning applied at all. You will have a trailer park on the other side of a fence from your shiny new townhome almost undoubtedly. If a grocery store is a block away, you'll still have to drive there. 

If this is all ok with you, then it is a great area to invest in cheap real estate and pay no income tax. Also you are investing in an area where people hate cities. Every young person I've met here that is from here wants to go live in the countryside. That's because if Pensacola is your only exposure to a city of course you'll hate them. All the negatives few positives. 

People in Pensacola drive two hours a day everywhere by choice. It's the culture in town. If that helps. 

Post: New Service Member Looking to Invest

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Hey man while I'm still here DO NOT BUY A CAR. I repeat. DO NOT BUY A CAR. 

Will be easiest way to wiggle ahead of your peers financially. If a woman doesn't pick you up or isn't ok with that, she's not worth it.