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All Forum Posts by: Brian Bradley

Brian Bradley has started 41 posts and replied 491 times.

Post: Series LLC or Separate LLC's?

Brian Bradley
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  • Wilsonville, OR
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@Daric Myers I am an asset protection attorney with clients nationwide and also invest in real estate on my own. We use Series LLC for our clients in almost all states, but CA, and use the Series LLC for myself personally. You don't need to be stuck with just your local attorney. Shop around. If you don't want to talk to me, I would suggest @Scott Smith who also specializes in Series LLCs and you might have heard on the biggerpockets podcast 109. The Series LLC with a land trust is a very powerful domestic asset protection tool. 

Post: Series LLC Liability Structure

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  • Wilsonville, OR
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@Brendon Pishny I am an asset protection attorney and we set these up all the time for clients nationwide. @Ashish Acharya is wrong the are not new. Just to put perspective of the misconception of the Series LLC being a new entity, it is not. It was first created in 1996 in Delaware. 22 years ago. The traditional LLC first became available in Wyoming in 1977, but most other states did not follow suit until the 1990s). The next state was Delaware in 1991 to enact the LLC. In 1994/5 CA. It was not until 1996 that all states had a LLC. The same year the Series LLC was statutorily crested.

So it's interesting how people quickly fall in love with the traditional LLC thinking it's been around forever but fairly after the creation of the LLC in most states, the series LLC immediately came in the game. In fact just one year after CA codified the traditional LLC.

Just a quick timeline of history and the LLC relating to the misconception of the "novelty" of the Series LLC.

It has nothing to do with the state offering the provision or not. Ashish is an accountant not a lawyer and does not specialize in asset protection as a lawyer and does not specialize as a lawyer in Series LLC. Even if you lived in a state that does not have a statutory Series LLC, that does not mean you cannot create one in lets say TX or NV or DE or any of the other 17 states that have one. What the state courts will look at in the state you are sued in that does not have a Series LLC is the "Independent Liability Shield" of that State for LLCs and its protection for member owners. Every single state in the US has a LLC Liability shield in it. Some are just better then others. 

Post: LLC Structuring vs Series LLC

Brian Bradley
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  • Wilsonville, OR
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@Michael Ruane I am an asset protection attorney that represents real estate investment clients nationwide. The state you reside in is irrelevent for where you decide to set up your asset protection company. Most investors jurisdiction shop for the best protection. We use TX Series LLCs with a Land Trust for most clients in most states, except CA. The Series LLC is a great asset protection system since you get the benefit of having one LLC for tax filing, yet you can place each asset into child series. The Series LLC is the parent at the top, and it can have as many children series under it as it wants. Each child is a "series". Even though the Series LLC is one company, with one filing with the state and one tax return, each series is treated as if it were its own LLC for liability purposes.

Post: Series LLC

Brian Bradley
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  • Wilsonville, OR
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@Clementene Taylor I am an asset protection attorney. if you are series about setting up an real estate investing business for the long hall that will generate passive income, then treat it like a business and incorporate it correctly from the very begging like a real business BEFORE you close. You are in TX so should set up a Series LLC. If you plan is to have more than one property then you can put each property into its own child series. The tax filing is streamlined and very easy since you are only filing one tax return on the parent Series LLC. So @Percy N. is not correct on this overhead comment. I don't recommend purchasing property out of the SLLC, Purchase it into your own personal name, and then transfer it the day you close into the Series LLC via a land trust. 

Post: Series LLC

Brian Bradley
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  • Attorney
  • Wilsonville, OR
  • Posts 504
  • Votes 411

Just to put perspective of the misconception of the Series LLC being a new entity, it is not. It was first created in 1996 in Delaware. 22 years ago. The traditional LLC first became available in Wyoming in 1977, but most other states did not follow suit until the 1990s). The next state was Delaware in 1991 to enact the LLC. In 1994/5 CA. It was not until 1996 that all states had a LLC. The same year the Series LLC was statutorily crested.

So it's interesting how people quickly fall in love with the traditional LLC thinking it's been around forever but fairly after the creation of the LLC in most states, the series LLC immediately came in the game. In fact just one year after CA codified the traditional LLC.

Just a quick timeline of history and the LLC relating to the misconception of the "novelty" of the Series LLC.

In regards to Series LLC's and states that recognize them or not, the issue comes down to each specific state recognizing the "internal liability shield." Not if they have a Series LLC to create in that state or not.

The good thing about @Trevon Peracca is that you live in Illinois so all this is for nothing since Illinois revised their LLC statute and actually statutorily created Series LLCs for the state of Illinois.

Now, the issue of lenders not lending to Series LLC is the same issue as lenders not wanting to lend to Traditional LLC or Corporations. It is a matter of history, track record and existence and over all capital of the business structure. And from a pure business perspective, you get better loans from banks personally for investing then through your business. So get the loan personally for a better rate, then transfer the property into your Series LLC via your living trust like @Scott Smith mentions. 

Post: LLC to run your rentals through ?

Brian Bradley
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  • Wilsonville, OR
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@Sean Robertson I’m an asset protection attorney. We like to use the combination of Series LLCs with land trusts.

Post: FLIP & SELL USING ANOTHERS SDIRA QUESTION?

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  • Wilsonville, OR
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@Richard Jumonville talk to @Brian Eastman he is the go to guy on SD IRAs

Post: Asset Protection and The Bridge Trust

Brian Bradley
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  • Wilsonville, OR
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For those high risk and net worth investors (Doctors, Lawyers, Dentists, chiropractors, etc) The Bridge Trust is really the most secure Asset Protection system available. This is because it combines both domestic and foreign trusts. 

The basics of this type of asset protection trust allows the beneficiaries access to assets in the Trust for their benefit unless an "Event of Duress" occurs. this means any action or activity that threatens the Trust assets. a lawsuit.

When a lawsuit happens, a secondary set of rules that are predetermined called 'triggering events' in the trust are activated so that legally the creditor and the courts are blocked from any access to the Trust assets. During this time, the clients remain the beneficiaries and may still indirectly access Trust assets. (for example: the Offshore Trustee may lease a car for the beneficiary, rent a home or pay credit card bills of the beneficiaries. The net effect is that the Trust assets are permanently preserved for the Trust beneficiaries and completely protected from unauthorized court proceedings and creditors. This is known as The Bridge Trust (TBT).

If triggered by a threatened lawsuit, The Bridge Trust, serving as the majority limited partner, typically pulls the client's assets out of the U.S. jurisdiction by legally transferring them to a foreign jurisdiction under the administration of a foreign Successor Trustee. This occurs without the loss of beneficial ownership or distributive rights by the grantor. Importantly, client assets that are in a holding company never have to leave the U.S. unless the trust is "triggered" by some crisis. Once the threat ends, The Bridge Trust can be re-domesticated to the status of a U.S. grantor trust if the client so desires. It is this working relationship between the domestic and foreign trust and the successor trustee that makes the Bridge Trust to powerful. 

When it comes to asset protection, advance planning is a must. Only assets in the Trust will avoid probate and be protected from future fiscal emergencies. Importantly, funding may occur only when the client has no claims pending, threatened, or expected. Once funding is complete, the client must be able to pay all reasonable anticipated debt from resources outside the Trust. Accordingly, the client must sign and notarize an Affidavit of Accuracy and Solvency before the Trust can be established.

The Bridge Trust may own sub-chapter S stock and annuities. The trust may also own personal residences without loss of tax-free capital gain or home interest deduction benefits. Unlike the Revocable Living Trust, The Bridge Trust, when holding title to a personal residence, can legally remove the equity of those residences to the protection of a foreign jurisdiction, if needed. While IRAs and other qualified retirement plans may not be placed in the trust, The Bridge Trust may be a primary or contingent beneficiary of such plans.

Post: Wilsonville, Oregon Real Estate Forum

Brian Bradley
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  • Wilsonville, OR
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@Cody Cox we are way overdue for coffee. I get back in town next week. IM me and lets set a day. I think a periodic meeting for this group is a great idea. I just need some feedback from the participants who are interested and we can try to set a location and time. 

Post: Wilsonville, Oregon Real Estate Forum

Brian Bradley
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  • Attorney
  • Wilsonville, OR
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@Cody Cox not yet. I was going to talk to some state legislatures now to see what we can do to have Oregon revise their LLC statute for Series LLC. In regards to Series LLC's and states that recognize them or not, the issue comes down to each specific state recognizing the "internal liability shield." Not if thy have a Series LLC to create in that state or not. For the State of Oregon recognizing internal liability shield. The long end of the story is YES, Oregon does by statute recognizes internal liability shield for owners / members of an LLC. So even though Oregon does not have a Series LLC, the state of Oregon does recognize internal liability shields. see OR statute below to be comforted. ORS 63.165(1)(2) (1)the debts, obligations, and liabilities of LLC, whether arising in contract, tort or otherwise, are SOLELY the debts, obligations and liabilities of the LLC. A member or manager is NOT PERSONALLY LIABLE for a a debt, obligation or liability of the LLC solely by reason of being or acting as a member or manager. (2)The failure of a LLC to observe the usual formalities or requirements relating the exercise of its LLC powers or management of its business is NOT a ground for imposing personal liability on the members or managers for liability of the LLC. [1993 c. 173 section35; 1999 c.86 section 10.] So, though Oregon does not have a Series LLC, the State of Oregon does recognize the internal liability shield principle for LLCs, and that is what the courts would be looking at if you created an out of State Series LLC lets say in TX or NV or DE, and owned a property in OR or any other state that does not yet have the Series LLC and were sued in OR or that state. The personal liability shield of the Series LLC would still be upheld so long as its formalities were followed. Just like a standard LLC. I know you invest in OH property notes a lot. The good thing is OH does recognize and codified their own Series LLC when they revised their LLC Statute.