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All Forum Posts by: Brian Barch

Brian Barch has started 3 posts and replied 272 times.

My primary cleaner gets a text via hospitable that she has a cleaning.  When cleaning is done, she sends a text and a Venmo her.

She recently got a different primary job, and thus she can't do same day, weekday turns.  So I started using a backup cleaner on Turno.

I agree that Turno is expensive, at the same time, part of self managing and scaling is that I make it manageable.  I don't want to get into a scenario where I have 6 STRs and have to text and Venmo all of them.  TBH, despite the cost I prefer using Turno.

It depends. Is it costly? Yes, but that doesn't make it bad if it unlocks future profits for you. I would use the minimum I needed to make the STR successful, and have a backup plan if the STR lost money.

In other words, this might be best suited for someone with a big W2 shovel, they just don't have the full downpayment built up yet, but if they ran into future issues or slow STR months, their W2 could cover it (and the HELOC payment).

Also, you have to really research your STR investment first to be almost certain it will profit.  
But STR investing can be fickle over a SHORT TERM horizon.  I remember when people were doing whatever they could to buy a rental cabin in Blue Ridge GA near me.  So many gold rush stories.  Two years later and that market is down 30% while costs are up.  What seemed like a great investment 2 years ago would be a poor one now......which is why you need to go in with a long term horizon in mind.

I certainly view STR as higher risk, higher reward.

You are dealing with discretionary spending from your customer base vs necessity spending with an LTR.  Factor in regulations and being dependent on OTAs, and it seems pretty clear to me.  That said, I might find a different lender.

I use it. Cuts down on the back and forth. Haven’t had any issues yet

Quote from @Brandon Gale:

Unique Amenities: As others have said, it will depend a lot on the area. Best advice I can give, get setup on Pricelabs or a similar pricing/analysis software. They have a Market Research feature I use all the time. Setup your filter to show you properties similar to what your looking for in the area your looking for (size, # beds/baths, etc.). Sort by revenue and check out the listings of all the top performing properties and see what amenities they are providing. I do this often just to stay up to date with what others in the area are doing amenity-wise. We found in our research that even at the increased price-point, a mountain view is worth its weight in gold. We shopped for properties based on that and it has paid off.

Guest Experience: Similar to what others have said, have good detailed automated messages for guests and a guidebook, nothing they hate more than getting to a property and being confused about how to get in, where to find things, etc. We also send an automated message to them around noon time the day after check-in just to see if they have any questions or need anything, most guests really appreciate us checking in with them, this also avoids the common scenario of guests that have an issue at the property but just choose not to tell you about it, then leave a bad review without giving you a chance to make things right. We often get a reply like "Everything's great but the coffee maker isn't working" which gives us a chance to have a new one dropped off and get ahead of any issues.

We also provide toiletries and basic cooking needs to all guests. Just the basics, little shampoo, conditioner, soap and lotion bottles in each bathroom, salt, pepper, cooking spray, coffee grounds, etc.. If you buy them online in bulk they're really cheap and I think it makes a huge difference.

Lastly, DoorDash and other apps like it are incredibly useful. Guests are always amazed at how quickly we get them things they need. Guest runs out of coffee, runs out of toilet paper, needs more towels, etc, we can usually get them any of these things in under an hour with the delivery service, and for much cheaper than the typical service call to try and have your cleaner stop by. We get alot of great reviews specifically mentioning how quickly we were able to get them supplies.

Seasonal Strategies: For us this has been all about pricing. We struggled in the down months during our first year. We decided to price our down months more aggressively and start our discounting 3+ months out. Our lead times and occupancy rates went up a ton in our quieter months after doing this. VRBO's Market Maker tool is awesome for this. I pay close attention to it in down months. It has a graph that shows you where your nightly rate is compared to the average rate of booked properties in your area. As we approach slow months I manually adjust my pricing to try and always stay just below the booked property line.

I’m super confused on the Pricelabs market dashboards. You have to pay $10/mo/city, no? I.e. there is no way to study multiple cities for one fee, correct?

I’m in Atlanta. Columbus has some strong dynamics…cheap prices, 3 F500 companies, military, hospital, kayaking enthusiasts, Kia car plant.

It has as many bad parts as good, so do your research, but I do believe if it is just about the investment, there’s some money to be made there

In general, I price myself 10-15% high outside of my avg lead time, and discount fairly aggressively inside the lead time.

This strategy attempts to capture both the planners who will pay a small premium to secure a good data ahead of time, and the last minute deal seekers.

In general, it seems many people don’t vary between weekend and weekday pricing enough IMHO.

2 ideas I’ve toyed with… in 2+ years I’ve never not booked a weekend. Can the prices go higher still here?

And 2, this idea that people will pay a higher prices simply by virtue of you charging a higher price. In other words, your price determines the perceived value in the guests mind, no different than a luxury purse fetching $1000 while another brand only $75, even though they are both made out of leather. 

I’m guest favorite, top 5%, all 5 star reviews…. What would happen if I did something radical like double the price? A part of me feels like some people might pay it! It would be an extreme high/low strategy. Price at $400/night, but discount down to $100/night within the final week….

Don't compete on price!  Compete on photos/amenities/good reviews; put all of your energy there.

Post: Wood Fire Hot tub?

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I think these photograph well, but ultimately will lead to an underwhelming experience for many guests who underestimate the work involved.  I'm open to being wrong though....

1) continue to maximize and hone your listing over a 2 week period.  Don't assume all professional photos are the same.  If you need to get better ones, do it.  It will pay for itself the first month

2) Automate guest communication.  Airbnb CAN do this for you, but I recommend Hospitable which is much easier

3) I like Pricelabs for dynamic pricing, but worry about this in month 2.  

4) don't fret over bad guests, rather focus on all the things in your control that would discourage them.  Pricing, booking lead time minimums, the copy in your listing, etc

5) make small connections with your guests, which will lead to 5 star reviews.  If a guest shoots a message like "we are so excited to stay for our 5th anniversary..."  Make sure to chime in, wish them a happy anniversary.  Relate to them based on where they might be traveling from, suggest a local hike/restaurant/attraction you like.  These little things are the things that make guests feel connected to you.

The rest will sort itself out!