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All Forum Posts by: Brett Clothier

Brett Clothier has started 2 posts and replied 13 times.

Post: Renting using Realtor and management company - commission $$$ ?

Brett ClothierPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Memphis, TN
  • Posts 14
  • Votes 7

Haha!  Well, that changes the narrative a bit!  I agree on the credit rating.  I also think this opens room up for you to negotiate fees since every charge will be so large.

Post: Renting using Realtor and management company - commission $$$ ?

Brett ClothierPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Memphis, TN
  • Posts 14
  • Votes 7

Hi @David J., as with most things in real estate, you can negotiate.  The 8% of rents collected is reasonable, as is a one month's lease up fee.  I would recommend that they cannot charge you that lease up fee more than once per year in case you have tenant move out early for whatever reason.

As for the renewal/extension fee, that is where I think you have an opportunity to ask for a reduced fee.  Yes, it can seem like less work, and maybe they get a renewal after one phone call, but sometimes it takes our company months to get a resident to renew.  And more importantly, the costs that you would incur with a move out such as repairs, lost rent, mortgage payments, etc would far outweigh the cost you would pay to renew even if you paid a full month's rent renewal fee.

The most important thing to look at is confirming that you are dealing with a reputable management company who can give you referrals and examples of properties they manage in the area.  I would also ask (If you don't know) what the tenant market looks like for the house you have.  Obviously, area economics will weigh heavily on minimum credit scores.  Most renters are renters for a reason, so that factors in as well.  If the house rents for $800/month, then it's probably going to be hard to find someone with a 700 credit score.  If it rents for $2,500, then that's a different story. 

Post: Owners title policy on a flip

Brett ClothierPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Memphis, TN
  • Posts 14
  • Votes 7

@Chris C. I would always suggest getting an owner's title policy.  Even though we only hold our properties on average 75 days, we get a title policy on each and every property to protect ourselves against any claim that can come up.  When you transfer the property by warranty deed to the next buyer, you are warranting that title to the next buyer.  If something were to come up, and you did not have owner's title insurance, then you would be liable for whatever could come up.  It's all a risk/reward decision, but for us, it is a no brainer and peace of mind.

I closed a refinance today where my rate was 5.5% in Texas and the lender charged 0.5 points. I closed one a month ago in Tennessee and it was 4.875%. Both loans were done by local area banks and were under my LLC. One was a 15 year am and the other was a 20. Hope that helps -

Post: What would you tell your 24 year old self in this market?

Brett ClothierPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Memphis, TN
  • Posts 14
  • Votes 7

@Joe Prillaman  I was in the same boat as you not too long ago.  I bought my first property when I was 20 back in 2005.  I followed the advice that @Andrew LeBaron gave you and partnered with someone on my first rental property and learned everything I could.  Fast forward 12 years and I now have 41 properties across my personal rental portfolio.    I would take the time to learn as much as you can, but I also would not delay taking action.  There is never a "right" time - if you keep waiting for it, it will never come.  Go to as many networking events as you can, and meet as many people as you possibly can, because one thing is for sure - you can't do it on your own.  Surround yourself with people smarter than you, learn from then, and take action.  You will definitely make mistakes, as many (including myself) have, but those were the best learning experiences I have had in real estate investing (way better than you can learn in any class).  Best of luck!

Post: Buying property in another state - How do I do it???

Brett ClothierPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Memphis, TN
  • Posts 14
  • Votes 7

@Jagpreet Singh There are plenty of articles and discussions on this site discussing different markets that are ideal for out of state investing.  The most important thing you will need to find is a quality team.  I would encourage you to take the time and spend the money to go visit several different companies in each of the cities you might be interested in.  If you are going to spend $40,000 on each property to build your portfolio, then it would prudent to spend a few thousand dollars to get on a plane and go visit different places where you intend on investing.  Take the time to ask questions, especially regarding property management, and work to verify and confirm what they tell you in terms of vacancy rates, etc.  There are many great companies out there, just take the time to find the right one for you.

Post: Management Company Question

Brett ClothierPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Memphis, TN
  • Posts 14
  • Votes 7

@Deano Vulcano Like anything in real estate, I am sure it is negotiable.  The chance to add 11 units to a portfolio for a management company is significant, and I am sure they would consider language that is beneficial to both parties.  If you are interested in selling, and they can obtain the buyer for you, then they should receive a commission.  If you obtain the buyer yourself, then there is no reason for them to receive a commission.  As an owner of a management company, what I stated above sounds completely reasonable.

Post: Anyone know an agent in the Dallas/Forth Worth area

Brett ClothierPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Memphis, TN
  • Posts 14
  • Votes 7

Not war zones, but interested in area any where I can buy positive cash flowing properties. My bread and butter would be buyer for approx 40-70k.

Post: Property Manager in Dallas/Fort Worth area

Brett ClothierPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Memphis, TN
  • Posts 14
  • Votes 7

Sorry, I should have clarified. SFH

Post: Anyone know an agent in the Dallas/Forth Worth area

Brett ClothierPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Memphis, TN
  • Posts 14
  • Votes 7

who has experience with REO's? Looking for someone to make offers for me in that part of the country.