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All Forum Posts by: Brandon Morgan

Brandon Morgan has started 39 posts and replied 109 times.

Post: things to consider before buying a condo

Brandon MorganPosted
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Hi all I am new to real estate investing and I live in the NJ/NY area. my overall plan is to own a bunch of rental properties. my current plan is to start with a condo, live in it for a while and then rent it out. I figure since I live in a city like area a condo is a safe bet assuming the building allows me to rent and HOA fees are reasonable. if anyone has any experience with condos what should I look for? what should I avoid? anything I should know regarding renting them out? open to any advice or suggestions on the subject.

Quote from @Steven Primiano:

I flipped a condo and a very close friend lived in a townhouse.  I'm biased, but I won't invest in any property that has a homeowners association unless it's way too good to pass up.  The flip wasn't THAT bad, but there were a lot of little extras along the way that ate into our profit.  I can't imagine a long term hold on a condo as being something I would do.  As @Charles Carillo mentioned, these HOAs almost never have enough reserves long term.  You're bound to have a huge assessment at some point for a major repair like siding, roofing, or parking lot maintenance.


would I be able to increase rent with the HOA fees? considering there is a yearly increase.

Quote from @Charles Carillo:

@Brandon Morgan

Purchasing a condo vs. a single-family home, offers another level of complexity, especially if you are trying to rent it out. You have to perform your due diligence on not only the unit but also the HOA. You want to make sure you can rent, make sure they have reserves, etc. I would also want to avoid buildings that are mostly (or a larger portion) investors. Investor condo buildings are notorious for having a lot of deferred maintenance, and not enough reserves.


assuming the building allows me to rent out the property. since HOA fees always increase increasing rent would also be an option right?

Quote from @Steven Primiano:

I flipped a condo and a very close friend lived in a townhouse.  I'm biased, but I won't invest in any property that has a homeowners association unless it's way too good to pass up.  The flip wasn't THAT bad, but there were a lot of little extras along the way that ate into our profit.  I can't imagine a long term hold on a condo as being something I would do.  As @Charles Carillo mentioned, these HOAs almost never have enough reserves long term.  You're bound to have a huge assessment at some point for a major repair like siding, roofing, or parking lot maintenance.


 ill keep that in mind. 

Quote from @Julien Jeannot:

I would also agree. A multi would best.

What strategy are you looking to execute long term? 

A lot of my client's initial goal is to cash flow net zero in a duplex while living in one of the units. I'm in Seattle where is market is expensing and competition fierce. What I have seen work instead is jumping into a multi that needs work with negative cash flow, creating value and raising rents.

Although the cash flow is negative in the short term, it much better then paying full rent. Over time, 3-5yrs typically, the cash flow improves to positive, and the equity appreciates significantly.

I know my strategy for the next few years is to live in the property the first year and then move out and rent it out and do the same with the next property. I am currently approved for an FHA loan. 
Quote from @Charles Carillo:

@Brandon Morgan

Purchasing a condo vs. a single-family home, offers another level of complexity, especially if you are trying to rent it out. You have to perform your due diligence on not only the unit but also the HOA. You want to make sure you can rent, make sure they have reserves, etc. I would also want to avoid buildings that are mostly (or a larger portion) investors. Investor condo buildings are notorious for having a lot of deferred maintenance, and not enough reserves.


 ahh I see.

Quote from @Jaron Walling:

@Brandon Morgan What is the most important thing when buying RE?... Location, location, location. 

Regardless of condo or SFH you need to KNOW which locations are BETTER and why. You need do the market research and follow a strategy. What you described is a 1-3 year plan where your leverage an FHA loan, move out, rent it, and buy another property. It's similar to what I did when I bought my first SFH only I used a conventional with 5% DP. I used the rest of my savings (every dime) remodeling the property. I then refi'd the property and put some capital back into my pocket.

Every market is different but in our market single family is more desirable. Our houses are spread out and the city is pretty car centric. People like privacy, fenced in yards, garages, and basements to store their junk. You don't always get those things with a condo. SF appreciates faster than condos. Without knowing your market I'd spend 75% of my time search for SF, and 25% searching for condos. 


 thanks for the advise

Hi all, my plan is to own rentals long term and receive cash flow. does it matter if I go for a single family or Condo? assuming the condo unit lets me rent it out. my plan is to live in the condo/ SFR for a year and then rent it since I already got approved for an FHA loan. right now it is looking like the condo might be a better option for me considering my area in jersey and the location of the condos. depending on the HAO fees I feel the cash flow may be better with the condo. Any suggestions or personal experiences in this?

if I get a SFR I am looking at the Monmouth and Middlesex county areas of jersey. but for a condo I am going to go for the Essex county/ city like areas of jersey near the train and NYC.

I made a few post with similar questions but I am trying to think of this from multiple aspects. 

Quote from @Julien Jeannot:

I would also agree. A multi would best.

What strategy are you looking to execute long term? 

A lot of my client's initial goal is to cash flow net zero in a duplex while living in one of the units. I'm in Seattle where is market is expensing and competition fierce. What I have seen work instead is jumping into a multi that needs work with negative cash flow, creating value and raising rents.

Although the cash flow is negative in the short term, it much better then paying full rent. Over time, 3-5yrs typically, the cash flow improves to positive, and the equity appreciates significantly.


 my long-term plan is to rent out multiple properties and receive the cash flow. i want to start with house hacking to make it easier in the beginning. 

Quote from @Alexa Ferguson:

Hi Brandon! I have lived in 3 houses over the past few years and house hacked all of them - all single family homes. As you said, reasonably priced multifamily properties are hard to come by in many markets (I am in Denver and that is the case here), so SFH is the more affordable option. By making it your primary residence you can also put as little as 0%-5% down, depending on the lending program. We would look for homes with a space that could be separated so we didn't have to share space with our tenants. This could be a basement, upper level, wing of the house, apartment over the garage, etc. - any part that can be accessed separately. Denver homes commonly have a separate entrance to the basement, so that is the form ours took. You can then rent this space out as a long-, medium, or short-term rental, based on the strategy you like. We do STRs because they generate the most cash flow and are allowed in our area. We have consistently covered our mortgage for the past 3 years using this strategy! Hope that helps!


 wow that's very useful to know. thank you.