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All Forum Posts by: Brandon Morgan

Brandon Morgan has started 29 posts and replied 83 times.

Quote from @Daniel Vineis:

ya absolutely. most people just recommend multi family because it allows you to offset your income while living there without having roommates. also they tend to cash flow better so if the plan is to do this year over year making sure the rents cover your DTI when you move out is very important. I would say figure out a 5 year investment plan. How many houses you want to purchase and will they all be house hacks etc. Then figure out a standard of living your comfortable with and that will tell you weather or not single family or multifamily is the correct route for you. Strictly speaking from a financial point of view multi family's almost always make more sense unless your walking into some equity in a single family.


 creating a 5 year goal/plan makes perfect sense actually. thanks. 

Post: payment methods for tenants

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Quote from @John Morgan:

@Brandon Morgan

I self manage my 29 SFR and run into this all the time. I've been slowly moving all my renters over to apartments.com to keep track of all these payments easier.

Been there done that with tenants like yours. I would give them a 3 day pay or quit notice. Tell them you’ll cancel your court date if they pay you the rest by the court date. Otherwise these people will own you.


 yeah I think I will move to apartments.com it seems useful and organized. 

Post: payment methods for tenants

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Quote from @Kevin Sobilo:

@Brandon Morgan, nice to see someone from the same market here!

I do not accept cash app or zelle as those seem better suited for personal transactions than for something like rent payments.

I use apartments.com. It provides basically a tenant portal where you can upload copies of the lease, manage electronic payments, even do other things as well like maintenance requests.

Most tenants pay using secure ACH transfers from their account to mine. It takes a few days for the money to hit my account, but that is a small thing compared to the convenience. ACH transfers are free, but if a tenant wants to pay with a credit card they will get charged a fee. In addition tenants can choose to have their payments reported to a credit bureau to build their credit.

You can also set it up to automatically apply late fees which is nice.

Since its a portal for the tenant, both you and the tenant see a complete accounting of all payments made.

In addition you can use it to collect initial security deposits or to bill the tenant for addition items such as billed back utilities, damages, etc. So, if a tenant broke a window and it cost $300 to replace, you can simply add that bill in apartments.com and that way its all tracked where everyone can see it and track it. 


 that sounds helpful! I think I will try that!

Hi all i am a new real estate investor and just bought my first rental property a few months ago and now have it all rented out. I have been living in my home I grew up in and next year I am looking to move out . I am thinking since I want to continue my real estate journey if I should buy a duplex and just live in it and rent the other half out as opposed to buying a single family. can a single family home that you live in be considered an investment at all? I live in new jersey. just asking for personal experience or insight. still got some time until I look to move out next year. 

Post: payment methods for tenants

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Hi all i just recently bought my first rental property and finally have it all rented out! i was wondering what other people use for payment methods. I been using cash app and zelle that art connected to my business checking account. only issue is one of the tenants has been paying weekly but had a death in a family and now has not paid in several weeks. I charged a late fee and told them to just pay the lump sum for the month from now on. I really hope this does not continue to be an issue. hopefully it doesn't escalate where I have to evict. 

Post: is an LLC necessary?

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Quote from @Roland VanLoan:

Were you able to find a property that would cash flow?  I am originally from PA and still have family there.  Perhaps I should look there.  Thanks.


 I found property in the Scranton area. found a decent duplex that cash flows. 

Post: is an LLC necessary?

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Quote from @Roland VanLoan:

Congratulations Brandon! I am still looking to buy my first investment property so I don't have enough experience to answer the LLC question. However, I was talking to a DSCR loan officer about a property I was looking at and they told me that they would only lend to an entity like a LLC or corporation; they would not lend to me individually. May I ask where you bought your first property? I am in San Diego and it is too expensive here to get started, so I am looking in the Midwest. But there are so many possible places to look, it gets overwhelming. Thanks.


 I am on the East cost. I live in jersey but bought my property in Pennsylvania because jersey and NY are extremely expensive.  

Post: is an LLC necessary?

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Quote from @Nathan Gesner:

An LLC is useful for two things: anonymity and legal protection. In most cases, neither is warranted.

Warning: I am not an attorney, and this can be a complicated topic. Please note the information provided below is a layman's definition designed to provide a basic understanding for the general audience. You should consult an attorney or CPA for your specific situation.

ANONYMITY: When you create the LLC, your name is recorded on the documents and published on the Secretary of State's website for all to see. So you're not completely anonymous. If you want to be completely anonymous, you can use a Registered Agent. The Registered Agent will record the documents on your behalf so only their name and information appear on the documents. I've done this with my properties because I'm well known in my small town and don't want people to know what I own.

LEGAL PROTECTION: By placing your assets in an LLC, you are legally separating them from your personal assets. If someone injures themselves and sues, they will be suing the LLC and not you personally. If your insurance coverage isn't enough, they could seize the LLC assets, but not your personal assets.

Additional thoughts:

1. An LLC is not free. You can spend as little as $100 to form an LLC, or you could use an attorney and spend $1,000 or more. There are also additional costs of operating and maintaining an LLC, like separate bank accounts, annual report filings, tax filings, etc.

2. There are rules to follow! If you fail to follow the rules, you may open your personal assets to a lawsuit. An example of this would be mixing your personal money and LLC money in the same bank account.

3. You do not need a separate LLC for each property or a series LLC! Don't make your life more complicated than it has to be. Most professionals will recommend a separate LLC for every $1 million in assets but I don't think that's necessary. In my case, I have residential rentals in one LLC, commercial properties in another, self storage in a third, and my real estate company operates in a fourth. Some have more than $1 million in equity while others have less.

4. The need for an LLC is grossly exaggerated on BiggerPockets and other websites. Have you ever heard of a Landlord being sued by a Tenant and losing property? I've been on this board since 2010 and haven't found an example yet. You've probably heard of big Landlords losing property, but only because they were flagrantly violating Fair Housing, running a slum, or otherwise violating the law in an egregious manner. You are more likely to be struck by lightning twice. The vast majority of lawsuits against Landlords are for wrongful eviction, security deposit disputes, and Fair Housing Violations. Your primary insurance policy with $300,000 in liability coverage should be sufficient in 99.999% of all lawsuits.

5. The best protection for you and your investments? Know and obey the law. I manage around 400 rentals with 14 years of experience and have never been sued once. Even if I were sued, I document everything and obey the law, so I won't be found guilty. Even if I were found guilty, the cost would be in the thousands, not in the millions. Insurance would cover it, I would pay the deductible, and no assets would be lost.

If you are in an area like San Diego where people are more likely to sue, a judge is more likely to find you guilty, and the payout is expected to be higher, you may consider an umbrella insurance policy. This policy will provide additional coverage above what your existing policy covers. It's easy to obtain, costs very little, and doesn't require extra, on-going effort to maintain.

This was very helpful. thank you. 

Post: is an LLC necessary?

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Quote from @Chris Seveney:

@Brandon Morgan

If the loan is in your name I would not put it in LLC I would just a good insurance policy.

That’s what I would do and have done


so you're saying don't switch it over to an LLC later on? and when you say insurance do you mean insurance other than home insurance like State farm?

Post: is an LLC necessary?

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hi all, I am new to real estate investing and recently bought my first property a few months ago and got it rented out! I am thinking about the future and how I will purchase properties in the future. I often hear you should get an LLC to protect yourself in case something goes wrong. is that only useful if you have a large portfolio? is that worth looking into right now as I am only in the beginning of my journey? open to any suggestions, insights or past experiences.