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All Forum Posts by: Tim G.

Tim G. has started 10 posts and replied 45 times.

Post: Small Success for a young investor

Tim G.Posted
  • Investor
  • Rhode Island
  • Posts 45
  • Votes 7

Great job Grant a very smart move. My situation is a little different but I have the same goals and timeline as you with my first property that I just closed on. That is a great amount of equity! Thanks for sharing your inspiring sotry.

Post: New investor from Rhode Island

Tim G.Posted
  • Investor
  • Rhode Island
  • Posts 45
  • Votes 7
Originally posted by @Anthony Thompson:
Originally posted by @Tim Gilman:
@Anthony Thompson ...The property is assessed at around 140k and the offer put in is 92k (they were asking 95k) with 2500 in closing costs. We have been approved for a conventional loan with 3% down with mortgage insurance dropping off in 5 years so will bring my totally monthly down to $750-800 a month. renting it out in a few years we should have even more equity and be able to cash flow about $400-500 a month. Any advice/tips on this deal?

Tim, sorry I missed this. Based on the financing you described, it sounds like it's going to be owner occupied (by you) for the first few years, so I don't have a good framework to evaluate that as an investment since it's not, really, at least until you move out and rent it.

Until then it's more of a question of, does the monthly payment work with your personal financial situation?

I agree with @Mark Russo that when it comes time to rent it, you'll want to do a market survey to see what rents are. If you want to get an idea, you can do a market survey now, but I certainly wouldn't assume rents will rise between now and whenever you start renting it out.

Also, was your offer accepted?

The payments absolutely would work as our mortgage with insurance, taxes, and any other hidden costs I could possibly find comes out to around $800/month. We would walk in with $30K+ of equity at the time of moving in as well which would provide that exit strategy for the future. The neighborhood is very active with around 2+ houses being sold in the past couple of months for much more money. The offer has been accepted for 10K less then asking price with $2500 of closing costs. Rent o meter gives an average of $1300-$1400 for similar properties in the area. Doing some investigating on my own has shown asking rents are even higher than that (around $1500/month) for the area. Calculating everything out it should be fairly easy to yield a $400+/month profit when we rent it out in 1-2 years. I'm very conservative so i have estimated everything on the high side compared to the averages told to me by the town, sewer, and utility companies. Ive calculated everything many times and the property seems to make perfect financial sense for what our goals are.

Post: Hi, Looking to build my network

Tim G.Posted
  • Investor
  • Rhode Island
  • Posts 45
  • Votes 7

Welcome to BP! Happy investing.

Post: Short sale strategies

Tim G.Posted
  • Investor
  • Rhode Island
  • Posts 45
  • Votes 7

Hello,

I am a new real estate investor from Rhode Island and am hesitant to make a short sale for my first deal. I have extensively tried to see how the property I am looking at would not work financially short term and long term but have not been able to. The property is assessed at around 140k (3Bed/2Bath with 2000Sq ft of living space) and the offer put in is 92k (they were asking 95k) with 2500 in closing costs. We have been approved for a conventional loan with 3% down with mortgage insurance dropping off in 3-5 years so will bring my our total monthly payments (including everything) down to $750-800 a month. renting it out in a few years we should have even more equity and be able to cash flow about $400-500 a month or sell to make a great profit. Looking at exit strategies it seems we would be in a pretty good position to sell, lease to own, or rent in 1-3 years when we purchase another property. The neighborhood is good with much higher priced houses selling frequently as well. Any advice/tips on this deal? There is no rehab required and is completely move in ready. We are sick of renting and getting nowhere so this property seems perfect for the time being and will allow us multiple options to cash out on the deal later on and fuel future deals. Are we missing anything? Any advice on additional things to look for? I have checked property records ( house was built in 1960) and everything else I legally could and nothing out of the ordinary has come up. At this point we are waiting for the bank to accept the offer.

Thank You

Timothy

Post: New investor from Rhode Island

Tim G.Posted
  • Investor
  • Rhode Island
  • Posts 45
  • Votes 7

@Anthony Thompson I came across a short sale that this same scenario applied. Property was in pending and the buyer backed out and moved on. I picked up on it as it is a SFH in a decent neighborhood of west Warwick (northern part near the golf courses). The property is assessed at around 140k and the offer put in is 92k (they were asking 95k) with 2500 in closing costs. We have been approved for a conventional loan with 3% down with mortgage insurance dropping off in 5 years so will bring my totally monthly down to $750-800 a month. renting it out in a few years we should have even more equity and be able to cash flow about $400-500 a month. Any advice/tips on this deal?

Post: New investor from Rhode Island

Tim G.Posted
  • Investor
  • Rhode Island
  • Posts 45
  • Votes 7

Anthony,

I totally agree and did not even consider that aspect of SFH rentals. There are plenty of great houses on the market the only barrier now will be to decide If I should try to get in any of the great short sale properties I have seen or stick with regular sale. The short sale properties I have found were (in my eyes) wonderful investment properties as they would provide a much more significant return than any multi family i came across (2-3 family). Running numbers I can calculate around a $200-300 profit per month for each property that meets the criteria (and there are many). What is your opinion on short sales and especially in the case of someone in my position?

Thank You

Post: New investor from Rhode Island

Tim G.Posted
  • Investor
  • Rhode Island
  • Posts 45
  • Votes 7

Thanks again for the help and welcoming everyone has given. After some careful thought I'm shifting my sights on to SFH's at this point as there is an abundance of them and the exit strategy for a newcomer like me is much easier in the long run. I like the economy of scale factor with MF's but I think to start with an SFH and a good amount of equity makes sense. I can you this to my advantage later on to purchase more properties and be in a better position without the headaches of a MF. I have also had terrible luck with finding anything that can even cash flow $100 in my area of RI. Any comments are appreciated.

Post: New investor from Rhode Island

Tim G.Posted
  • Investor
  • Rhode Island
  • Posts 45
  • Votes 7

@Brandon Turner I see no point in going the multifamily route if I cannot make something every month or is this how everyone starts out? It seems every property is either "As Is", needs flood insurance, or is in a terrible neighborhood (for an owner occupy scenario for me and my family anyways). I am in no way getting discouraged I just want to make sure I am going about things the right way for my market segment and creating an effective strategy to be successful. Financially, since I just graduated college my real only option currently is a duplex as a 3 family + requires reserves, DP, etc... To be honest I am just sick of throwing away money renting which I have been doing for the last 4 years of school and want out.

@Anthony Thompson thank you for the leads, I'm working to see if I qualify for a 15k grant currently which would of course be a huge help.

Thanks in advance

Tim

Post: New investor from Rhode Island

Tim G.Posted
  • Investor
  • Rhode Island
  • Posts 45
  • Votes 7
Originally posted by @Anthony Thompson:
Tim, I don't know that I'd say as a blanket, "just add $600". I think instead I'd try to break it down into the separate components.

For insurance, it sounds like you have a pretty good handle on the costs. I'm running about $1200/year for my 1-2 fams. My 3-unit is covered by the same mortgage and insurance as a 4-unit so I don't know the # for the 3 off the top of my head.

If you're seriously considering a specific building, you can get a quote from an insurance agent for an even more solid #. They'll usually get it back to you within 24 hours, and they're happy to do it since there's a good chance you'll end up giving them the business (principle of reciprocity).

For taxes, look up the assessed value at http://www.statewidemls.com/realtorresources/publicrecords/ and then use the table at http://www.muni-info.state.ri.us/finances/taxrates.php to figure out the yearly and monthly tax amount.

Generally speaking, all your expenses will usually end up being about 40-50% of your income. You can get it lower than 40% if you're super aggressive about keeping costs down and especially if you do some stuff yourself, but in my experience that's a good range to use.

(Note: In my experience, add another 10% to the expenses if you have to pay for the tenants' heat. You'll be amazed at how wasteful people are when they're not paying for it... or maybe you won't be :)

If you want to get a better sense of the other costs, check out http://www.biggerpockets.com/rei/real-estate-property-analysis/ and/or I can also send you an example operating statement if you private msg me your email.

I guess I'd also say, don't get caught up in "analysis paralysis" either. I'm a #s guy too, so I definitely understand where you're coming from, but there's also a point where it's more beneficial to just get started with a decent property, than to run more analyses trying to find the "best" or "most optimal" property.

Again, thanks very much for the advice. Great idea to check insurance rates as well. The example you spoke about will be a big help so I can determine what costs i need to look out for as well as which ones I can minimize to get maximum profit. Determining the breakdown for the various costs has been a difficult task as there is no clear cut answer. Financing is the task at hand now and like i said i am approved through ri housing but still would like some other options, could you recommend anyone in specific? (company/person). I want to maximize any possible grants/assistance being a first time home buyer I can. Ive heard of various grants up to 15k in Cranston but need to research other areas further.

Post: New investor from Rhode Island

Tim G.Posted
  • Investor
  • Rhode Island
  • Posts 45
  • Votes 7
Originally posted by @Anthony Thompson:
Tim, I don't know that I'd say as a blanket, "just add $600". I think instead I'd try to break it down into the separate components.

For insurance, it sounds like you have a pretty good handle on the costs. I'm running about $1200/year for my 1-2 fams. My 3-unit is covered by the same mortgage and insurance as a 4-unit so I don't know the # for the 3 off the top of my head.

If you're seriously considering a specific building, you can get a quote from an insurance agent for an even more solid #. They'll usually get it back to you within 24 hours, and they're happy to do it since there's a good chance you'll end up giving them the business (principle of reciprocity).

For taxes, look up the assessed value at http://www.statewidemls.com/realtorresources/publicrecords/ and then use the table at http://www.muni-info.state.ri.us/finances/taxrates.php to figure out the yearly and monthly tax amount.

Generally speaking, all your expenses will usually end up being about 40-50% of your income. You can get it lower than 40% if you're super aggressive about keeping costs down and especially if you do some stuff yourself, but in my experience that's a good range to use.

(Note: In my experience, add another 10% to the expenses if you have to pay for the tenants' heat. You'll be amazed at how wasteful people are when they're not paying for it... or maybe you won't be :)

If you want to get a better sense of the other costs, check out http://www.biggerpockets.com/rei/real-estate-property-analysis/ and/or I can also send you an example operating statement if you private msg me your email.

I guess I'd also say, don't get caught up in "analysis paralysis" either. I'm a #s guy too, so I definitely understand where you're coming from, but there's also a point where it's more beneficial to just get started with a decent property, than to run more analyses trying to find the "best" or "most optimal" property.