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All Forum Posts by: Becca F.

Becca F. has started 24 posts and replied 797 times.

Post: Tips for rules to put in place when renting

Becca F.#3 Starting Out ContributorPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
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@Mary Eubanks

Congratulations on closing on your first rental! I would say that getting good tenants in is one of the most important things and know your state and local laws. Have a handyman, plumber and electrician. 

At first I stated no pets for my SFH in Indiana. My first tenant pulled a last minute "my daughter really wants a dog". She passed the background check, great credit score, everything so I didn't want to try to get a new tenant in place. After talking with my property manager. I decided to charge a monthly pet fee, $35 for a small dog/cat or $45 for a large dog (Labrador, Golden Retriever, Saint Bernard, etc). If I wanted to get specific, I could have stated the weight of the animal for the small and large sizes. My PM said some people do a pet deposit of about $200 and a monthly fee or just one. Sometimes it's not clear who does damage to the property, the people or the pet so he suggested doing the monthly pet fee. The pet fee also nets more money over a year than if I did the $200 deposit (if the tenant didn't get any of it back). I also stated tenant is responsible for mowing the lawn, no overnight guests for more than a certain number of days, no smoking, no other pets including visitors, etc

For my SFH in San Francisco Bay Area that I self-manage, I have the same rules as Indiana but a few more specifics. I stated in the lease: no candles, no smoking/vaping of any product inside the property, immediately mop up any spills or standing water, no non-operating vehicles, items they can store in the garage (bicycle is okay), no illegal drug use (I have to state the obvious) and "if any part of this lease is deemed invalid, it does not invalidate the other parts of the lease." I also can't charge pet deposit or fees for someone who has a registered emotional support animal. SFHs aren't subject to rent control (so far) but multi-units are. I have a Master Tenant to avoid the multi-unit issue and any roommates pay rent directly to the Master Tenant and have a written agreement/lease with the Master Tenant. I charge a garage use $100 monthly fee so whoever wants to park their cars in the 2 car garage pays for it. You probably won't have this issue in Texas with rent control.

Post: Elliot from Ace Properties

Becca F.#3 Starting Out ContributorPosted
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@Evan Reinhardt

I didn't purchase the Invest with Ace course.

Here's a free rental calculator but I don't think you can save it as pdf or spreadsheet (at least I can't figure out how to save it). It also shows what the financial analysis is if you hold the property for a certain number of years, for a example 20 years: https://www.calculator.net/ren...

I bought two rental worksheets (a BRRRR one and Rental Property Calculator) for $24 during a Black Friday sale from another investor, Soli Cayetano, known as Lattes and Leases on Instagram and on her website. It has the many of the same features as Ace's calculator but I don't see the numbers of years hold feature, like the free calculator above.

Post: Buying first investment property in San Francisco

Becca F.#3 Starting Out ContributorPosted
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@Tahir Em

I have a SFH in SF. One of my investor friends advised me that SFH aren't under rent control (for now) and that if I have a tenant that tenant becomes the Master Tenant and collects rent from other tenants (the roommates) with a written agreement, no separate leases with me and the future roommates. If I'm renting out an in-law unit (aka studio on the other floor) it could technically become a multi-unit and could be under rent control - I will consult a real estate attorney when that time comes. I'm renting to a tenant I know personally so they're unlikely to cause problems for me. Once I get roommates in, I'm charging a garage fee (not under rent control) and whoever wants the garage space can decides who wants to pay. Another investor said I could charge $100 to $200 for each garage space depending on the part of SF and how valuable parking is.

I'm not a big fan of condos because of ever increasing HOA fees. I sold a condo in the East Bay (Oakland) because it was badly managed. I really wanted to hold onto it because of California appreciation but I cut my losses - Oakland and Berkeley heavily favor tenants and a non-paying tenant can live there for months and it's a nightmare to evict them. I'm taking the proceeds and I'm investing out-of-state now - Midwest or possibly Tennessee, which are landlord friendly. This is a bit off topic but the cash flow is much better with lower price points in the Midwest (have one SFH there) but historically the appreciation is better in California so I'll see what happens in 5 to 10 years.

If you can get a multi-unit building in SF that seems better than a SFH. Good luck!

Post: Any thoughts on early paying the mortgage on a BRRRR?

Becca F.#3 Starting Out ContributorPosted
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Quote from @Nathan Gesner:
Quote from @Eric Dekker:

I have a new Rental property that I BRRRRed and is cash flowing relatively well. There is no early payment penalty on the loan. An extra $100/month would equate to the loan being paid off 7 years earlier and $27k in interest savings over the life of the loan. Does anyone have any thoughts on overpaying the mortgage?


Joe is right. Let the Tenant pay off the mortgage and keep your cash free to build up an account for the next purchase.

Have you heard of the law of diminishing returns? The longer you hold an investment, the lower your return. This graph demonstrates it visually, though your return may drop faster/slower depending on circumstances:

This chart shows that the property earned an 18% return the first year, but after year 10 the return has dropped below 12%. If you're trying to keep returns above 12%, you would want to sell this property and reinvest the equity in a new rental that earns a higher return and maximize growth.

People think "buy and hold" means holding on to a property forever. The truth is you will get a better return by reinvesting your equity to maximize the rate of growth.

Read a few books on real estate investing to learn the power of leverage. I like the Unofficial Guide to Real Estate Investing. Here's a very basic explanation to get your juices flowing:

Assume a house costs $200,000 and rents for $1,500. The market appreciates 3% per year.

Pay cash for one house and rent it for $1,500. After five years you'll have earned $90,000 in rent income and gained $34,000 in appreciation.

Buy four houses with $50,000 down on each. Mortgage payment is $1,000 on each house, so you're essentially earning $500 per house or $2,000 a month. After five years you'll have earned $120,000 in rent income and gained $136,000 in appreciation. You've earned $132,000 more by splitting your money and leveraging it.


This is super helpful. I thought about paying extra each month on my Indiana SFH rental to be mortgage free sooner but I'm still trying to acquire a few more properties.

I had a lender suggest to me to take out a HELOC on a California property (no first mortgage) and pay cash $150,000 to $300,000 for my next rental out-of-state to avoid those pesky interest rates which are going up and down and have a faster closing.

That makes no sense to me to pay $300,000 cash for a house, let alone $150,000. I'm seeing San Francisco Bay Area investors do this, pay $680,000 cash on a fixer (Selling agent said they had all cash offers. I looked at this property and he can't get it rented out now on Zillow $3750 asking rent). I did do a cash out refinance (pulled equity out of that California house) so I could do 20% down on a Midwest property. I'm not a huge fan of HELOCs with variable interest rates

Post: At what point should someone hire a CPA or Advisor?

Becca F.#3 Starting Out ContributorPosted
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Quote from @Paul De Luca:
Quote from @Ross Kline:

I know hiring a CPA or advisor is a good idea at any point, but at what point in an investor's progression does it become a necessity?

I imagine it depends on focus, like LTR vs STR vs development... Curious to know your thoughts and experience!

Also, at what point did you hire a professional, and what did you hire them to do?

I did my own taxes through TurboTax in 2019-2020 with just two house hacks and I regret not working with a CPA sooner. I had a CPA do my taxes in 2021 and it was so worth it. I had my CPA prepare my federal and state tax returns and that came with estimated state income tax payments due quarterly which was helpful. Your CPA should save you time and money.

Now all these responses are scaring me. I've been doing my own taxes through TurboTax Premier with my first rental in 2019. My 3 properties are LTR with one multi-unit owned with co-investors. I take the 12 month cash flow sheet the property management company gives me and plug in all the numbers (my percentage ownership) for the multi-unit. The properties aren't in LLCs. I did a renovation this year and will start entering the numbers. 

A family member's CPA gave me a rough quote of $1500 - I'm in the San Francisco Bay Area. I have a TurboTax CPA look through my returns before I file. It is time consuming doing my own taxes but I feel like it's valuable knowing the financial details. If I had the properties in LLC's I would definitely hire a CPA.

Post: Should I hire a CPA for tax planning when I am just starting out?

Becca F.#3 Starting Out ContributorPosted
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@Jack Jiang

It depends on who the CPA is when I call for help. There was a mistake on the rental income reported so I had to fix that and file an Amendment. The last CPA said he owns 15 properties so he gave me lots of helpful advice on how to file my 2022 returns. He also sent me a link on what counts as capital expenses and how to write them off on my renovation, what to depreciate and for how many years. 

Post: Is it possible to start out in Southern California with $35k?

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Quote from @Matthew Martin:

I started with a SFH in 2012 and then another in 2015.... then nothing until last year. Since last year I purchased 7 units in 3 different states without ever seeing the properties in person. Not to brag, but to simply show that it can be done. I know there are people out there doing way more deals and volume then I have. It really is not that difficult and 35K goes a long way in the mid-west (even now). Just take action!

My last triplex was closed in October. Purchased for 140K and appraised for an ARV of 294K based on structure and 386K by the income approach. To be clear, this appraisal was conducted as if my scope of work was already completed, so it's all subject to change. However, those numbers gave me confidence to move forward. Rehab starts full swing in about two weeks.

I had no contacts in the market whatsoever. I googled agents in the city and called a few. Got a good vibe from one of them and decided to go with her. As she sent me properties and I evaluated them I also reached out to property managers (found on google) until I found one that passed my interview process. We talked about the area, what to expect for rents, and how we would conduct the rehab. I told him I wasn't paying his 20% maintenance fee for a complete rehab and he agreed. From there I found a contractor and got estimates and signed the contract to complete the scope of work. I also found a good RE lawyer who helped me create an LLC for $400 in a single day. That easy. Now it already brings in $2275 per month with $1000 per month payment (interest only hard money at 9.35% interest). Once rehab is complete I will refinance and do it again.

If you want to talk then PM me. I am extremely busy, but if you reach out we can find some time to chat. However, I would not blow 35K on educational materials, etc. There is plenty of free information out there on BP and other pages. Even TicToc has a lot of people who explain how they do real estate deals. Obviously a lot of the info is vague, and the only way to learn is to do it yourself. You don't need to see the entire road in front of you. Just have to be able to see one step in front of you at a time (two, three, or four is better though). Just like driving through fog. You can't see the road a half mile in front of you, but as you drive closer you can see further and further. Cheesy, but true. Good luck!
 


I completely agree with the last part. Don't spend $35,000 on educational materials or "how to become a real estate investor" or "how to BRRRR" courses/programs. I attended free webinars or watched their videos on social media (mostly Instagram) and at the end the person is trying to sell me a mentorship program or additional courses. They range from $500 to more than $35,000. The last one was ridiculous, asking the potential investor/buyer to put up all the down payment but the mentor would help find the property, obtain property management and have access to his world class team of financial experts. Then sell the house 3 to 5 years later to find a better performing rental and you only get 50% of the proceeds. I told the guy if I have an extra $18,000 to $35,000 I would use it towards a down payment on a rental not on your program. Not sure if I should put out his name but everyone is now a real estate guru. I found YouTube video and the webinars on Bigger Pockets good resources - all free.

Like some of the others have commented, house hacking is good place to start. And network but be cautious - not everyone is out looking for your best interests and they will try to take advantage of newbies. 

I started out by renting out my primary residence in the Midwest instead of selling it when I moved to California(SF Bay Area). Good luck!

Post: Should I hire a CPA for tax planning when I am just starting out?

Becca F.#3 Starting Out ContributorPosted
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  • San Francisco Bay Area
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@Jack Jiang

I do my own taxes. I use TurboTax Premier and their CPAs review my return before I file. I have 3 properties, 1 SFH that was recently renovated, 1 multi-unit (co-owned with other investors), 1 SFH out of state. None of them are in LLCs. The multi-unit and out-of-state SFH were on my 2021 tax returns. The renovated house will be on this year's return so this will take a bit of work. I think learning how to file on my own was been very valuable. If I had just handed over my information to a CPA, I wouldn't have awareness of what's going on in detail.

I'm in the Bay Area and know one CPA charging $1500. The $500 to $1000 you  were quoted sounds very reasonable if that's for federal and state tax filing. For now, I'll probably do my own taxes. If I get LLCs for my properties or future rentals or just get tired of doing my own returns, that's when I'd get a CPA. 

Post: Raising rents and feeling guilty??

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Quote from @Daniel D.:
Quote from @Doug Garrison:

Dan,

Thanks for starting this discussion. I'm struggling with the same decision process.

I'm one of those guys who never raised anyone's rent. I've got tenants who have rented from me for years paying rents from 8 to 10 years ago. Maybe longer. We purchased our properties over the last 30 years and always saw this as retirement savings. We fell in to feeling if the mortgages were being paid off and we had some positive cash flow things were fine. I basically used all the cash flow to pay off the mortgages by the time I reached 65. I retired from my "day job" about a year and a half ago and I'm starting to see the error of my ways. We have plenty to live on from the rentals but there could be quite a bit more. 

I go from feeling great about what we've built to feeling like a sucker for renting some of the apartments far below market value. This thread has hopefully helped me to try and separate my personal feelings from the business I am in.

Thanks,

Doug


 It's hard to find a middle ground, but there is still time to do the correct thing and raise them little by little. In the end what most people want is what you have now, no day job and living off of your rentals. Congratulations :)


Post: Raising rents and feeling guilty??

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@Daniel D.

Wow $450 and $750 are really low rents. You've been a nice landlord. 

That is something I've struggled with also. My tenants are getting a very reasonable rent for out-of-state (Midwest) SFH rental. My property manager advised me that if I raise the rent too much it will scare them away - they've had the same rent for 2 years in a row but I'm planning to raise it the summer of 2023 when their lease is up, not sure if it will be 5%, 7% or 10%. My property taxes increased significantly and didn't pass it onto my tenants. My current rent is in the range of other rental comps but rent is going up across the country.

I agree with the other comments. Talk to them so they get advance notice. And raise your rent each year a little. Good luck and keep us posted!