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All Forum Posts by: Axel Ragnarsson

Axel Ragnarsson has started 32 posts and replied 238 times.

@Jeremy H. @Nick Coons I don't think the video linked but if you look up '3 genius ways to finance your deals' with biggerpockets you should find it

Quote from @Nick Coons:
I don't think that's true. There's a huge difference, from several perspectives, of acquiring one (or a couple) multi-family properties per year, and acquiring 1.4 properties/month.

As to the remainder of your questions, I think those are valid and I'd love to see the answers to that. My guess is that the progression wasn't linear (as it typically isn't). It might be that in the first year, he house-hacked a four-plex with help from his parents with a down payment. Then after a year, refinanced and used that to continue. It's certainly possible that in the first three years he only acquired three of his 100 self-owned units, and acquired the remaining 97 in the last three years.

But yes, it'd be great to have answers on these.. perhaps he has some creative funding techniques we can all learn from.

 @Nick Coons @Jeremy H. Hey guys, to clarify, units are very different than properties. I started with $10k and leveraged private financing, seller financing, and seller credits to minimize cash out of pocket. I actually did a video on the BP channel about this (linked). It is a limiting belief that you need considerable income to buy real estate... there are numerous strategies you can utilize to buy real estate with little money out of pocket

Quote from @James Hamling:
Quote from @Axel Ragnarsson:

Last week, some partners and I closed on a 42-unit property in Daytona Beach, FL. This deal puts our company over 350 units, and I wanted to share some things I’ve learned while we’ve grown the business.

Full disclosure – I hate unit counts. I think people can misrepresent their experience and the size of their business (owning 1% of 1,000 units doesn’t really mean anything, while owning 20 units free and clear in an expensive market means quite a lot). That said, I own about 100 units personally and am a partner/equity holder of varying sizes in the other 250 units.


Anyways, what I've learned:

- The ability to consistently find great deals is the most important skill set any investor can have. If you can’t consistently find great deals, scaling your business becomes significantly more challenging. If you can consistently take down deals where you’re all in (purchase, reno, holding, costs) at 75-80% of stabilized value, the property becomes “free” once you refinance (no money in it). If you can’t do deals like this consistently, your money becomes tied up. Velocity of capital is critical!

- Similar to point #1, you need to focus on equity, not cash flow. Yes, cash flow matters in the sense that it keeps you in the game, allows you to pay your debt, and provides a margin of safety, but the real $$ is made in equity growth/creating value. If you bought a 20-unit apartment building, with a market value of $2M, that nets $150/mo/unit after debt service, you’ll make $36,000/year from cash flow. Now let’s say you bought that property for $1.8M (just 10% below market value, creating $200k in equity immediately) and its value increases 10% this year (you organically raise rents, perform a value-add, etc) to $2.2M – you’ve created $400k in equity. Even if rents were to rise over time, it would take almost 8-10+ years to earn that from cash flow. Keep this in mind when selecting markets, asset types, etc. There is wayyyyy less money to be made in extremely low-priced markets with less promising long-term growth potential, considering the real $$ is made from natural/forced appreciation.

- The investors who scale their businesses quickly outsource almost everything… they don’t source their own debt (hire mortgage brokers), don’t manage their own properties (hire property managers or build a team internally), don’t sell their own deals (hire brokers), don’t do their own construction (hire contractors), don’t manage their own books (hire bookkeepers), don’t draft any of their own legal docs (hire attorneys), etc, etc, etc. They realize the only tasks that truly matter are finding deals, finding money, and asset managing effectively – they hire pros to do everything else.

- Cash is critical – while doing deals with minimal cash is the goal, you need to have access to cash at all times. Many investors find themselves in a position where they’re asset rich and cash poor (not good)! Cash is the gasoline to an investor’s car… without it, everything grinds to a halt. It doesn’t matter if a property is cash flowing, there will be months where things go wrong, and you need to feed the beast. We currently hold a minimum of $2,500/unit in reserves and are working to increase this as rates rise and the market softens. This directly contradicts the “cash is trash” crowd that is hellbent on minimizing the cash sitting in their bank account – don’t be this person.

- It's important to constantly be tracking your ROE (return on equity) in assets as you do more deals. If the value of a property you own has increased significantly, but its yield/cash flow hasn't, it might make sense to sell or refinance. We've been selling a large # of properties in the last 1-2 years to access our equity (invest in larger buildings that generate more cash flow, invest at the business level, build cash reserves, etc).

- Understand how to creatively structure deals, whether it’s using investor capital, private money, seller financing, seller credits, second mortgages, etc. This is an entire topic in itself, however, if you bring less of your own cash to deals, you’ll do more deals (the goal)! If the only tool in your tool belt is putting 20-25% cash down to acquire assets, it’s going to take you a while to gain momentum.

- Paying for education and networking have been the highest return investments I’ve ever made in business/real estate. I know paying to get ahead is a “taboo” subject on BP, however, my business exploded once I began investing in networking, masterminds, and courses which develop critical skills. Yes, you can probably learn everything for free... that said, it’ll just take you much longer, and you’ll make more mistakes along the way. In general, investing at the business level (marketing, prospecting, hiring, software, masterminds, etc) will drive growth more than solely investing in physical real estate.

That said, lessons/advice is not "one size fits all". These comments are meant to speak to the investors out there who are looking to create a business out of real estate and scale – if your goal is to buy a property a year for the next 5-10 years, then maybe some of this doesn’t apply. I’d be interested in hearing what other investors have learned as they have grown their business, please comment below!


WOW! Seriously, this is the single greatest summary of REI wisdom, knowledge, direction and advice condensed I have ever read, bar none. This is so true it goes beyond words, it really is.

Everyone serious about being a serious success, you NEED to print this and put it all over the place, read it every day, EVERY single day, it's like a north-star. 

 thanks @James Hamling I appreciate it!

Quote from @Mariah Jeffery:

Thanks for sharing your story. Can you elaborate on how you networked and found partners? My husband and I have been in RE for 15+ years now and own several residential and commercial properties. We'd love to scale, but we never have managed to find partners with enough cash to invest. I have a real estate license here in Wyoming now, so I'm hoping this may present some opportunities, but I'm curious to know how you went about it.

- Mariah


 Set a goal to speak to someone new every day (phone call/in-person) and connect with people on linkedin, BP, networking events, etc

Quote from @Kyle Curtin:

@Axel Ragnarsson

This is amazing advice Axel, I took a few screenshots to keep them in front of me as I progress as an investor. Thank you so much for the awesome value, and I wish you the best of luck!! Keep killing it!!

Thanks Kyle!
Quote from @Eitan Rozenberg:

@Axel Ragnarsson - great success story!

I work on the financing side, and always curious to hear how investors went about financing as they scaled. 

Did you generally take down the properties with long term debt (agency/bank etc.) or bridge? Did you bring in pref equity/mezz at points also?

@Eitan Rozenberg pretty much every deal we buy is acquired with bridge debt, roughly 80% LTC. We leverage seller credits and pref equity to minimize cash out of pocket and to retain the upside. We then refi with local banks/credit unions when stabilized, or sell

Quote from @Ryan Camenisch:

@Axel Ragnarsson,

This is a great post! Love the breakdown of the lessons you've learned. Especially appreciate the point about focusing on equity vs. cashflow, and cash being critical. Highly valuable post, I'm sending to several clients/colleagues. Thank you for sharing! 

 Thanks Ryan! @Ryan Camenisch

@Mike Kehoe @Bob Lachance Thank you for the comments, glad to hear you enjoyed!

Quote from @Nicholas L.:

@Axel Ragnarsson great information and timely post.  To your point about cash flow vs. equity - BP has been emphasizing this as well lately.  On the most recent podcast, which was about STRs, David pointed out that a single property can't provide everything an investor is looking for, but a portfolio can.  I think this is what you are saying as well.  And, I do think it's important to continue to remind new investors that rent minus mortgage payment does not equal profits.  So good to add your point as well for a balanced view.

Thanks again for the transparency and congratulations on your success so far.


 Yes, I think it's the easiest trap for newer investors to fall into. Cash flow is great in that it can get you out of your job, but it's not moving the needle in terms of wealth building

Quote from @Michael Dumler:

@Axel Ragnarsson your point of focusing on equity, not cash flow is something I've been trying to reiterate to newer investors time and again. I can't tell you how many phone calls and meet-ups I've networked at where the conversation of cash flow seems to take precedence in determining what is or is not a deal. Yes, cash flow is the foundation of real estate investing and is used as a means to stabilize the asset, but it alone will not build wealth, nor will it constitute the value of the deal itself. Thank you for bringing this principle to everyone's attention. Furthermore, while you operate on a larger scale, every practical step and concept you have mentioned can be formulated and materialized down for smaller businesses and newer investors to utilize in their space. Thanks again for this! 

 Dude, this is exactly right! I appreciate the reply @Michael Dumler