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All Forum Posts by: Austin Williams

Austin Williams has started 5 posts and replied 11 times.

Post: Leveraging VA home loan

Austin Williams
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  • Wholesaler
  • Indiana
  • Posts 11
  • Votes 0

Does anyone have any suggestions or experience leveraging a VA loan without house hacking? While I currently have 25% equity in the home.

Post: How Do I Know If I Made a Low Enough Offer?

Austin Williams
Posted
  • Wholesaler
  • Indiana
  • Posts 11
  • Votes 0
Quote from @Bill B.:

I mean the assessed values mean nothing. Sometimes you might need to offer 100% over the assessed value. Sometimes you might be able to get the, below assessed value. You’re going to have to comb through 10’s if not 100’s of previous sales in the last 2-3 months of nearly identical properties to get an idea of what your target properties are worth. Probably the best thing you could do is go work for a wholesaler for 6+ months. Currently you’re essentially a peewee football kid asking the coach how to run circles around the professional defense. 

If you tell a wholesaler the zip code, the SF, the bed/bath and condition they should have a ballpark in their head instantly. MAYBE they adjust that up or down 10% depending on outside factors but they’re not checking the assessed value. 

Ps. I HOPE you misread the advice saying to offer 75-80% below asking price. I HOPE they meant 75-8o% OF asking price. (20-25% off). But even that doesn’t guaranteed a deal. They could be asking 20% too much. 

Pps. Wholesalers can literally pay THE LEAST for any property. You have to find a property that isn’t for sale or nobody knows is for sale, or is in unlivable condition.  Imagine a home “the market” thinks is worth $100k. You think you’re going to offer $30k or maybe $70k (if you misread the 70% off part of the bad advice you were given.). While the long term hold landlord would love to offer $85k. And the Short Term landlord might offer $95k-$105k because they’re going to make more income. But then in walks the owner occupant or the house hacker who “love the house” or the neighborhoods or the school district. And they offer $110k, or $120k.  You will literally never get one offer accepted. (I was going to say except for the person who NEEDS to sell today. But you aren’t really a buyer, you can’t buy today. You can only promise to go look for a buyer.)

Wholesaling is often sold as the easy way to get started. It is not. It is the cheap way to get started. As long as you don’t count all the hours you work for free that you could have been earning money and learning. I truly wish you good luck, but please be ready to pivot to something else. 

Bill yes you are right, the assessed value doesn't matter. What only matters is what has sold within the last few months in that area will determine what my property would sell for. Also, yes I misspoke, I meant to say they said to offer 80% of the total value, so if it is valued at $100,000 start off by offering $80,000 and not the full $100,000 price. 

So you're saying you have a home valued at $100,000 and a home next door sold last month for $80,000 and another home in that area sold for $92,000. So the average in that area is $86,000. Would it be a good idea to start off by asking for $68,800 to the seller then charge accordingly to the buyer for that property with the potential of selling to a house hacker for $110,000?

I am not worried about buying right now and I am learning from talking to you as well, so all isn't a complete waste. I just don't want to be in a situation where I was not able to maximize the deal, where the seller and buyer potentially makes 50k in profit each, whereas I only get $500, because my initial offer was 'too good to pass up'. I'm not complaining, because it is still better than zero. 

Post: How Do I Know If I Made a Low Enough Offer?

Austin Williams
Posted
  • Wholesaler
  • Indiana
  • Posts 11
  • Votes 0
Quote from @Don Konipol:
Quote from @Austin Williams:

So I am doing my due diligence and running a bunch of Wholesaling Calculator reports to decide on my maximum allowable offer ($53,260) in order to get my desired return ($10,000) and the flippers ($30,000). So for example, I have this property the County did an assessment on and the value came back at $67,800. When I ran that same property in BP (preforeclosure) it gave me an EMV of $71,003 but, also on BP, in the 'Find Deals' tab, it gave an off-market value of $116,660 and on Zillow it is zestimated at $93,600. Most investors I come across say you should make your initial offer at least 75-80% below asking price. 

So I am asking which price should I take the 75-80% off before making my offer?

Your approach is wrong.  If everyone could sit back, find real values on line, and make offers based on those values everyone would get rich flipping properties.  The reason values are all over the board is because valuation is an opinion.  No formula can be accurate across the board because even “cookie cutter” properties next store to each other differ as to view, location to the street, topography of the land, lot size, physical condition of the property, past remodeling, quality of the mechanical systems, sunlight, utility bills, past use, etc.  An investor needs to utilize their knowledge, expertise, and experience to be BETTER at assessing value than the 50 other investors chasing the deal.  
Hello Don, yes I agree knowledge, expertise, and experience would help me in analyzing deals, the reason for my question is if someone is willing to sell their property at $30,000 I don't want to offer $29,500 and they accept it right away. So should I just wait until they tell me want they want for the house before telling them what I would pay for it? 

Post: How Do I Know If I Made a Low Enough Offer?

Austin Williams
Posted
  • Wholesaler
  • Indiana
  • Posts 11
  • Votes 0
Quote from @Bill B.:

The county assessed value means NOTHING. I don’t own one property I would sell for 30% over the assessed value. 

About 10 - 15 years ago counties got sick of people contesting their property taxes. So they lowered the values 20-30% and increased the tax rate enough so that year property taxes dropped a couple dollars and nobody complained. But it eliminated any chance of them losing tax dollars to people who contested the values.  

Hello Bill, so are you saying I should try to purchase a property 20-30% over the county assessed value, since the numbers mean nothing?

Post: How Do I Know If I Made a Low Enough Offer?

Austin Williams
Posted
  • Wholesaler
  • Indiana
  • Posts 11
  • Votes 0
Quote from @John Teachout:

I have multiple properties I would gladly sell for the county assessed value. They've gone up beyond the point of reasonableness around here. That said, who in their right mind would sell a property for 80% below asking price? I think you're going to be spinning your wheels and going nowhere with this strategy.


Hello John, I am glad you would sell your property at the county assessed value. That just means for you I would need to make my initial offer below that. My goal is to not make my first offer so generous that the seller accepts it without making a counter offer. 

Post: Entity Classification Election

Austin Williams
Posted
  • Wholesaler
  • Indiana
  • Posts 11
  • Votes 0

So I just created an LLC and it was formed with the State about a week ago so I have a little under 70 days left to decide which tax classification I would like to elect before it is defaulted as a disregarded entity, for a single owner.

What do you suggest is the best entity classification to choose from for a new, up-in-coming business owner to get the best balance between liability protection and tax advantages? 

Post: Wholesaling Steps & Getting Under Contract

Austin Williams
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  • Wholesaler
  • Indiana
  • Posts 11
  • Votes 0

Thank you @David Ramirez

I have been looking into Real Estate Investment Associations in my area to come across other like minded investors for better exposure. Also, when you said "an actual deal" do you mean having it under contract first then taking that to another investor? 

Post: How Do I Know If I Made a Low Enough Offer?

Austin Williams
Posted
  • Wholesaler
  • Indiana
  • Posts 11
  • Votes 0

So I am doing my due diligence and running a bunch of Wholesaling Calculator reports to decide on my maximum allowable offer ($53,260) in order to get my desired return ($10,000) and the flippers ($30,000). So for example, I have this property the County did an assessment on and the value came back at $67,800. When I ran that same property in BP (preforeclosure) it gave me an EMV of $71,003 but, also on BP, in the 'Find Deals' tab, it gave an off-market value of $116,660 and on Zillow it is zestimated at $93,600. Most investors I come across say you should make your initial offer at least 75-80% below asking price. 

So I am asking which price should I take the 75-80% off before making my offer?

Post: Wholesaling Steps & Getting Under Contract

Austin Williams
Posted
  • Wholesaler
  • Indiana
  • Posts 11
  • Votes 0

When starting off in wholesaling is it better to find a buyer or a seller first?

Also, when using a purchase-seller agreement, what should you include in the contract in case the buyer or seller decides to back-out at the last minute so you are not stuck with the "bill"?

Post: Building Credit with LLC

Austin Williams
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  • Wholesaler
  • Indiana
  • Posts 11
  • Votes 0

@Michael Coco Thank you for the insite.